<div dir="ltr">Yup, It's not really a good way to 'do business' and I'd rather keep my relationship with my neighbors as drama free as possible. <div><br></div><div>Best of luck with this Rick, Hopefully something can get worked out. </div>

<div><br></div><div>-stephan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Charlotte M. Ellett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:charlottemellett@gmail.com" target="_blank">charlottemellett@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">In most places they are mandatory and encouraged by local government, so I was surprised to see optional ones around here.  Supposedly they try to trick people into joining with high-pressure at closing.  I would like to support one but wouldn't due to it meaning that you're then legally bound to an organization that may impose new rules on you at anytime, depending on their bylaws.</p>

<div class="im HOEnZb">

<p dir="ltr">Charlotte M. Ellett<br>
<a href="http://c63industries.com" target="_blank">http://c63industries.com</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from mobile</p>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 16, 2014 6:21 PM, "Stephan Henning" <<a href="mailto:shenning@gmail.com" target="_blank">shenning@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">

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<div dir="auto"><div>Yes, HOAs or Covenants. They aren't quite the same thing, and sometimes they aren't always voluntary. Often there is a single sheet of paper about it slipped in with the rest of the stuff you sign when you buy a house. I've had a few friends buy houses where they were not aware of the existence of the covenant until they were at the table signing the papers. <br>


<br><div>-stephan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>Sent from a mobile device, please excuse the spelling and brevity. </div><div><br>On Mar 16, 2014, at 12:26 PM, "Charlotte M. Ellett" <<a href="mailto:charlaxy@gmail.com" target="_blank">charlaxy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>


<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">By neighborhood rules, are you talking about HOA's?  If it's a voluntary one (which I was surprised to see actually exist and we have some here) then following the rules is optional if you don't volunteer to be a member (meaning sign a legal agreement and pay dues).  It doesn't sound like this is the case, but I wanted to mention it.</p>




<p dir="ltr">Charlotte M. Ellett</p>
<p dir="ltr"><a href="http://c63industries.com" target="_blank">http://c63industries.com</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from mobile</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 15, 2014 10:10 PM, "Stephan Henning" <<a href="mailto:shenning@gmail.com" target="_blank">shenning@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div dir="auto"><div>Not sure where you live, but I think there is also something in the HSV city zoning ordinance about it as well. If they neighborhood doesn't have a rule about it, the city very well might. <br><br>



<div>-stephan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>Sent from a mobile device, please excuse the spelling and brevity. </div><div><br>On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Rick Nelson <<a href="mailto:geezer.nelson@gmail.com" target="_blank">geezer.nelson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>



<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Unfortunately, he is correct about our community development rules.  He hasn't filed a complaint yet, so I'd like to take care of it before he does.</div><div class="gmail_extra">



<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:15 PM, David <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





  
    
  
  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    Tell the neighbor to mind his own business.<div><div><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>Rick Nelson wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div>It seems that one of my new neighbors thinks there are too
          many houses with inoperative cars in his neighborhood.  I
          have one of those houses.  This new neighbor found out that I
          work for the police department, so he plans to start his
          complaints with me.  I can't move the Midget into the garage,
          so it has to go.  If there is still interest in a Makers Local
          Lemons/Chump Car racer, I will donate the Midget and take it
          to the shop.  If there isn't enough interest, I'll sell it to
          someone in one of my car clubs.</div>
        <div>That neighbor will really be upset when I bring in the boat
          project I just bought.</div>
        <div>Rick Nelson</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:20 PM,
          Stephan Henning <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shenning@gmail.com" target="_blank">shenning@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">
              <div>So, depending on how much speed this picks up (pun
                intended), I am closely acquainted with a gentlemen
                (he's an inlaw actually) that owns his own engine shop,
                builds race engines for short track, truck pulls, mud
                runs, rock crawlers, and restores cars for himself on
                the side. If and when I have free time again, I'm sure I
                can weasel some input out of him on things we could do
                to get/keep the engine running as strong as possible. <br>
                <br>
              </div>
              I also have some machining skills I could lend to the
              project.<br>
            </div>
            <div>
              <div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:25
                    PM, David <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I used to
                        be in Twickenham, but when they stopped doing
                        the autocross, I lost interest.
                        <div>
                          <div><br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <div>Rick Nelson wrote:<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote type="cite">
                              <p>If it happens and the engine seems
                                solid after I give it a hard test drive,
                                someone may find an overlooked
                                supercharger and intercooler in the
                                parts bin.  I can't risk wasting such a
                                jewel if it isn't useful, though.<br>
                                The groups that do autocrossing are the
                                Tennessee Valley Region of the Sports
                                Car Club of America and the Twickenham
                                Auto Club.  I'm in both.<br>
                                <a href="http://Www.teamtac.org" target="_blank">Www.teamtac.org</a>.</p>
                              <p>Rick</p>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 30, 2014
                                8:03 PM, "David" <<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>>

                                wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                                  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                    You wanna get it turbocharged,
                                    Rick?  if we can find a turbo cheap
                                    enough?<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <div>Rick Nelson wrote:<br>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote type="cite">
                                      <p>I have been on the email list
                                        for years, but don't post
                                        often.  I also don't spend time
                                        at the shop, even though I live
                                        only a few blocks away.  I
                                        apologize in advance if I'm out
                                        of line with this post.<br>
                                        I have been to a Lemons race at
                                        Sebring.  There are fun cars
                                        that don't take themselves
                                        seriously, and there are race
                                        cars with serious drivers that
                                        take advantage of the rules to
                                        drive fast, expensive cars. 
                                        There are loopholes in the $500
                                        limit that allow drivers to race
                                        BMWs and Porsches that look like
                                        they should be in a professional
                                        event.  However, if a team is
                                        racing for fun and not upset by
                                        winners in $10,000 cars, it
                                        could be a total blast.<br>
                                        If some of you are seriously
                                        interested in entering the 24
                                        Hours of Lemons, or the Chump
                                        Car Series, I can provide a car
                                        that will qualify after a
                                        rebuild.  I bought it with this
                                        in mind,.  It is a 1977 MG
                                        Midget 1500.<br>
                                        If any of you are serious enough
                                        about a Maker Racing Team to put
                                        some work into it, we could race
                                        next season, and maybe even get
                                        some autocross runs in it this
                                        season.  Lemons requires a
                                        minimum of four drivers, and a
                                        pit crew would be needed.  I'll
                                        be one driver, so we need at
                                        least three more.  I believe six
                                        drivers is the max.</p>
                                      <p>Rick Nelson<br>
                                      </p>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Jan
                                        29, 2014 7:34 PM, "Tycho
                                        Clendenny" <<a href="mailto:tmclendenny@gmail.com" target="_blank">tmclendenny@gmail.com</a>>


                                        wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                                          <div dir="ltr">This Saturday
                                            and Sunday is the first time
                                            The 24 Hours of Lemons (not
                                            LeMans) is coming to
                                            Alabama. What is the 24
                                            Hours of Lemons? See <a href="http://24hoursoflemons.com/" target="_blank">http://24hoursoflemons.com/</a>
                                            for details, but, in short,
                                            it's racing crap cars on a
                                            real race track to see who
                                            can make the most laps.
                                            <div> <br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>More than 50 teams will
                                              race $500 junkers around
                                              the Barber track in
                                              Birmingham. I'm going to
                                              watch the folks try and
                                              hold their rustbuckets
                                              together against all odds.
                                              Some teams have ideas so
                                              crazy they just might
                                              work, like using an
                                              airplane wing as a
                                              spoiler.</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>It should be fun.</div>
                                            <div>Saturday, Feb 1 &
                                              Sunday, Feb 2</div>
                                            <div>Barber Motorsports Park</div>
                                            <div>Leeds, AL</div>
                                            <div>All-access pass $20 /
                                              day or $30 / weekend</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>--</div>
                                            <div>Tycho Clendenny</div>
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