<div dir="ltr">This isn't some kind of <b>illuminati conspiracy</b>, this is a device that records the last few seconds of vehicle telemetry, including airbag deployment info, vehicle speed, brake application time, brake force, throttle position, accelerometer and roll/yaw data, steering position, etc. <div>
<br></div><div>It can be used to determine fault, though it is not enough to truly determine that, and anyway, 99% of the time, nobody will ever look at it.</div><div><br></div><div>It's not something that's open, not because the car manufacturers need to be protected, but because giving that much raw data to your standard lay-person, especially after a wreck, is like giving ECG output of a person having a heart attack to a monkey, and asking the monkey to identify the person who gave that guy a heart attack. That much raw data is going to confuse and enrage, and there is also the issue of bias.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If you feel that it is an issue, in the event of a wreck, you can deny law enforcement access to your OBDII port at the scene of the wreck, and request they get a warrant for the data, in which case you should become familiar with the location of the EDR, and destroy it before they get the warrant, at which point you might get a nice charge of destruction of evidence. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Otherwise, <b><font size="6">go get a vehicle that does not have an EDR.</font></b></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:36 PM, WebDawg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:webdawg@gmail.com" target="_blank">webdawg@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Why not? An undocumented box that police and insurance companies use to tell if you are at fault. Who even knows if it works correctly and even gives real true data.<br>
<br></div><div>Its like the voting machine thing.<br>
</div><div><br></div>Something like this should be mandatory open, not locked up to protect car manufactures.<div><div class="h5"><br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:15 AM, James Fluhler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:j.fluhler@gmail.com" target="_blank">j.fluhler@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Just curious but why would you want to disable it? Presuming it does not emit a signal and is simply a data recorder in the vent of a crash.<br>
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:20 PM, WebDawg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:webdawg@gmail.com" target="_blank">webdawg@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div>I would think about, from what I have read so far, instead of disabling it (says integrated into electronics) figuring out a way to auto wipe it.<br><br></div><div>It looks like it records around the crash, and has limited capacity.<br>
</div><div><br><a href="http://wiki.hackspherelabs.com/index.php?title=2010_Chevy_Equinox" target="_blank">http://wiki.hackspherelabs.com/index.php?title=2010_Chevy_Equinox</a><br><br></div>Chevy has a GMLAN interface that lets you do all sorts of stuff, i never got into it but you can intercept and send commands. if the box is linked to it, that would be a start.<br>
<br>Someone just interfaced with a car at defcon or some conference I thought.<br><br></div>You are going to have to hack it. I mean read this (i know it is crappy fox news) <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2010/03/04/toyota-secretive-black-box-data/" target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2010/03/04/toyota-secretive-black-box-data/</a><br>
<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:12 PM, David <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Just discovered my Toyota truck has a "black box," a data recorder in it. How can I disable that <censored> and still have the truck work?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
David Merchant<br>
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