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    Actually, I do have a pump.  It was built for the air conditioning
    industry but works as well as a lab pump at getting down to very low
    pressures.<br>
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    I would dearly love to build a fusor!!!  Ethan and I started talking
    about doing that but then he had to move away.<br>
    However, I do not know how to blow glass.<br>
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    David Merchant<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/04/2014 08:15 AM, Jacob Chancery
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">@ainut: I'm impressed that you have your own vacuum
        chamber.  Do you have a pump to go with it?  If I ever scrounge
        one up I'll probably try to make a Hirsch-Farnsworth Fusor.
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        <div>It looks like the EmDrive guy is doing all his stuff in air
          on the tabletop?  I don't see a vacuum chamber in his
          pictures.</div>
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        <div>Measuring thrust that small in the lab is always hard.  And
          people will always attack your thrust measurement.  </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:19 PM, david <span
            dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> I have a small vacuum
              chamber with window, but it's only about a foot cubed. 
              Multiple penetrations, too.  Weighs a ton, probably 80
              pounds!
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                  <div>On 08/01/2014 02:32 PM, Erik Arendall wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Would that not be a vacuum sphere? </div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at
                        1:56 PM, Jon Doezal <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:compuhacker@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">compuhacker@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                            <div>As we all know, gravity doesn't apply
                              to us and the shop is a perfect,
                              frictionless vacuum cube.<br>
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                            But by all means, <i>let's.</i><br>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote"> On Fri, Aug 1,
                                  2014 at 12:24 PM, Jeff Cotten <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:omegix@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">omegix@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    <p dir="ltr">I've got a spare
                                      microwave</p>
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                                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Aug
                                          1, 2014 12:16 PM, "WebDawg"
                                          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:webdawg@gmail.com" target="_blank">webdawg@gmail.com</a>>

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                                              <div>Don't know.  Do you
                                                think it would be
                                                expensive to build
                                                though?<br>
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                                              It looks simple enough to
                                              build.  It looks cheap.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Bet it can be improved and
                                              it would be cool to
                                              experiment with.<br>
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                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:13
                                                PM, Chris Bero <span
                                                  dir="ltr"><<a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bigbero@gmail.com" target="_blank">bigbero@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                                                  <p dir="ltr">That
                                                    doesn't seem to be a
                                                    lot of thrust, do
                                                    you think there'd be
                                                    a practical
                                                    application for it
                                                    here on earth?</p>
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                                                      <div>On Aug 1,
                                                        2014 11:32 AM,
                                                        "WebDawg" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:webdawg@gmail.com" target="_blank">webdawg@gmail.com</a>>

                                                        wrote:<br
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                                                          <div>Hello,<br>
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href="http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07/31/nasa-validates-impossible-space-drive"
target="_blank">http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07/31/nasa-validates-impossible-space-drive</a><br>
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                                                          <a
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href="http://emdrive.com/demonstratorengine.html" target="_blank">http://emdrive.com/demonstratorengine.html</a><br>
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                                                          <a
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href="http://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2014-3853" target="_blank">http://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2014-3853</a><br>
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                                                          Anyone want to
                                                          build one of
                                                          these?<br>
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