<div dir="ltr">@ainut: I'm impressed that you have your own vacuum chamber.  Do you have a pump to go with it?  If I ever scrounge one up I'll probably try to make a Hirsch-Farnsworth Fusor.<div><br></div><div>It looks like the EmDrive guy is doing all his stuff in air on the tabletop?  I don't see a vacuum chamber in his pictures.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Measuring thrust that small in the lab is always hard.  And people will always attack your thrust measurement.  </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:19 PM, david <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    I have a small vacuum chamber with window, but it's only about a
    foot cubed.  Multiple penetrations, too.  Weighs a ton, probably 80
    pounds!<div><div class="h5"><br>
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    <div>On 08/01/2014 02:32 PM, Erik Arendall
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      <div dir="ltr">Would that not be a vacuum sphere? </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Jon
          Doezal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:compuhacker@gmail.com" target="_blank">compuhacker@gmail.com</a>></span>
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              <div>As we all know, gravity doesn't apply to us and the
                shop is a perfect, frictionless vacuum cube.<br>
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              But by all means, <i>let's.</i><br>
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                    On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Jeff Cotten <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:omegix@gmail.com" target="_blank">omegix@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                      <p dir="ltr">I've got a spare microwave</p>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 1, 2014 12:16
                            PM, "WebDawg" <<a href="mailto:webdawg@gmail.com" target="_blank">webdawg@gmail.com</a>>
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                                <div>Don't know.  Do you think it would
                                  be expensive to build though?<br>
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                                It looks simple enough to build.  It
                                looks cheap.<br>
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                                Bet it can be improved and it would be
                                cool to experiment with.<br>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 1,
                                  2014 at 1:13 PM, Chris Bero <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bigbero@gmail.com" target="_blank">bigbero@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                                    <p dir="ltr">That doesn't seem to be
                                      a lot of thrust, do you think
                                      there'd be a practical application
                                      for it here on earth?</p>
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                                        <div>On Aug 1, 2014 11:32 AM,
                                          "WebDawg" <<a href="mailto:webdawg@gmail.com" target="_blank">webdawg@gmail.com</a>>
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                                              <div>Hello,<br>
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                                                <a href="http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07/31/nasa-validates-impossible-space-drive" target="_blank">http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07/31/nasa-validates-impossible-space-drive</a><br>

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                                                <a href="http://emdrive.com/demonstratorengine.html" target="_blank">http://emdrive.com/demonstratorengine.html</a><br>
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                                                <a href="http://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2014-3853" target="_blank">http://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2014-3853</a><br>
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                                              Anyone want to build one
                                              of these?<br>
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