<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>There are a couple things to try for better altitude control. The kk board has a stick scaling option. You could decrease this setting for the throttle option and the altitude changes will be less aggressive. </div><div><br></div><div>Also adding some exponential to throttle channel on your transmitter may help. This will give finer control when the throttle stick is near the middle. </div><div><br>-Brian</div><div><br>On Feb 8, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Stephan Henning <<a href="mailto:shenning@gmail.com">shenning@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">How well does yours maintain altitude Brian? I am finding that I'm either climbing quickly or falling somewhat slowly without much middle ground.<div><br></div><div>I'll try switching auto level on and off and see if there is an observable change. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Brian Pappas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bripappas@gmail.com" target="_blank">bripappas@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>A little drift is always expected and can usually be solved with the trims on your transmitter. If you have to put a ton of trim in to keep it from drifting, then the motors may not be level or something else. </div><div><br></div><div>Ours originally had a wobble in it with default tunings. The are two sets of gains that can usually attribute to the wobble, the main roll/pitch gains and the auto level gains. The auto level gains control how aggressively the quad tries to level itself.</div><div><br></div><div>One thing to try is to quickly switch auto level mode off and then back on again while flying. If the wobble stops when auto level is off, you need to lower the auto level gain. If the wobble continues you first have to tune the main roll/pitch gains.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br>-Brian</font></span></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Feb 8, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Jeff Cotten <<a href="mailto:omegix@gmail.com" target="_blank">omegix@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">I managed to Bork one of my motors by driving the shaft into the bearings. The bearings in these motors are pretty weak, so I bought a bag of better replacement bearings. Let me know if you need any.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 8, 2015 3:03 PM, "Stephan Henning" <<a href="mailto:shenning@gmail.com" target="_blank">shenning@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>I am also having some issues with mine Brandon. It's got a tiny bit odeon let in it, but I'm having more drift issues than anything else. </div><div><br></div><div>It might not be a bad idea to have a 'tuning' session once everyone has theirs built. We could all meet up at a local park with a stockpile of batteries and get them all dialed in.<br><br><div>-stephan</div><div><br></div><div>---———---•---———---•---———---</div>Sent from a mobile device, please excuse the spelling and brevity. </div><div><br>On Feb 8, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Brandon Dewberry <<a href="mailto:brandon.dewberry@gmail.com" target="_blank">brandon.dewberry@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hey Guys,<div><br></div><div>I really enjoyed the quadrotor class, but I'm having trouble tuning out the wobble in mine.</div><div><br></div><div>I've reviewed many websites and adjusted the PI constants up and down several times. I can't seem to settle it.</div><div>I think something may be squirrelly in one of the motors. Or maybe I got a bad gyro in the controller (?)</div><div><br></div><div>Before I go off buying and replacing parts I'd like to meet up and compare performance.</div><div><br></div><div>Will Tyler or Brian be at the shop on Thursday night? Can you bring your KK2 rig?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Brandon</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Jeff Cotten <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:omegix@gmail.com" target="_blank">omegix@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>Tyler showed me where I misread the email, I see the event is free :)<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Jeff Cotten <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:omegix@gmail.com" target="_blank">omegix@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Any idea why the event is so expensive? It sounds really interesting, but that's $58 I could spend on drone parts.<br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Michael Carroll <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carroll.michael@gmail.com" target="_blank">carroll.michael@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Saw this posted on another mailing list I'm on, and it seemed relevant to quad building.</div><div><br></div><div>Huntsville will be hosting and International Drone Day on March 14, 2015 from 9am-5pm at the Rocket City RC Airfield.</div><div><br></div><div>I think you have to be an AMA member to actually fly (legally, etc).</div><div><div><font color="#3b3838"><br></font></div><div><font color="#3b3838">Prices:</font></div><ul style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(59,56,56)"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;list-style:none outside none">Age 19-65 - $58</li><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;list-style:none outside none">65 & over - $48</li><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;list-style:none outside none">Under 19 - Free or $15 with magazine</li><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;list-style:none outside none">Additional family members - $30</li></ul><span><font color="#888888"><div><font color="#3b3838"><br></font></div></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><div><font color="#3b3838">~mc</font></div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Stephan Henning <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shenning@gmail.com" target="_blank">shenning@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Tyler, do we need a programmer of some type for the FC board? I see some discussion about it being a good idea to flash the latest firmware when you get them, but I'm not sure if any old USBasp is sufficient, or if a beefier programmer is needed.<span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-stephan</div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Stephan Henning <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shenning@gmail.com" target="_blank">shenning@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Brandon, go ahead and let your order go through. Not worth fighting with it now.<div><br></div><div>For reference, every item HK sells, if you scroll down to the 'add to cart' option it will say to the left of the button which warehouse it is coming from. Note, the prices will change when you change warehouses, but not by much usually. Note2, your ENTIRE order has to be from the same warehouse, their checkout system cannot handle orders split across different warehouses.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Yes, the frame is OOS at the west coast warehouse, but they have another, <a href="http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__54664__Q450_V3_Glass_Fiber_Quadcopter_Frame_450mm_Integrated_PCB_Version_US_Warehouse_.html" target="_blank">non-led frame</a> that is available at the US warehouse. You should be able to use almost and of the Turnigy/HK branded radios. If you are looking at one from the US warehouse and aren't sure if what you have will work, ask and I'm sure someone here can help you out. </div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Tyler Crumpton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tyler.crumpton@gmail.com" target="_blank">tyler.crumpton@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello all,<br><br>Yes, there is still time to order parts! The sets I ordered for Phil and Jeff both arrived in four days (FedEx Priority from China). Most of the parts, except for the frame and the transmitter/receiver are in stock in the US West warehouse, so that is definitely an option if you want to switch to the similar frame without LEDs and already have a transmitter that will work. Feel free to order on your own, or let me know if you want me to order parts.<div><br></div><div>Brian and I tested the motors and propellers last week, and everything is looking great for the class on the 31st.</div><div><br></div><div>For those who have said that they are currently unable to buy parts, but might would like to in the future, be sure to attend the class and get a handle on how everything works together, and I'd be glad to help you assemble on later day.</div><div><br></div><div>Again, let me know if you have any questions, and keep making!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Tyler</div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed Jan 14 2015 at 7:54:37 PM Brandon Dewberry <<a href="mailto:brandon.dewberry@gmail.com" target="_blank">brandon.dewberry@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Now you tell me.<div>I just ordered from HobbyKing direct (is it in Hong Kong?) </div><div>My shipping estimate is 7-14 days. $35 shipping through Swiss Post (or something).</div><div>Not bad, but I'll be sweating at day 13.</div><div>Everything was in stock. Do you think I should cancel and re-order from the USA west?</div></div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Brandon Dewberry </div><div>(New Guy)</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Stephan Henning <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shenning@gmail.com" target="_blank">shenning@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">As a note to anyone that is considering doing this but didn't make the order 'deadline', you can buy everything you need from the USA West warehouse if you poke around the site a bit. It may even come out cheaper once the shipping is factored in. <div><br></div><div>-stephan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Tyler Crumpton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tyler.crumpton@gmail.com" target="_blank">tyler.crumpton@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote">Hello Makers!<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px">After putting together a quadcopter with Brian at the shop, many people have expressed interest in learning how to build their own quadcopter.</span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px">If you're interested, there will be a class/workshop on how to build your own quadcopter from off-the-self components at Makers Local, tentatively scheduled for Saturday, January 31st. If you have seen the quad that Brian and I have built, the quads we will be building during the class will be very similar, and hefty enough to carry a GoPro or other FPV gear! Here's a picture of our mostly-assembled quad:</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px"><IMG_20140806_000558 (1).jpg><br><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px"></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px">Attendance is free, but if want a quad to build, parts will cost from $220-$310 depending on some parts you may already have. Check out the </span><a href="https://256.makerslocal.org/wiki/Build-Your-Own_Quadcopter_Class" style="font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px" target="_blank">wiki page for the event</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px"> for more information on costs and parts.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px">If you'd like to order parts, send me an email, and we can work out the payment. I can accept cash, PayPal, Bitcoin, RedstoneFCU Transfer, Google Wallet, and a bit more.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px">I'd like to put in the orders for parts as soon as possible so that there is plenty of time for the parts to ship, so please try to have orders in by January 9th. Parts for each quad will be ordered as soon as I get payment.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px">Feel free to split the cost with a friend or two; flying a quad is a ton of fun! Let me know if you have any questions or comments!</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px">Cheers!</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px">Tyler Crumpton</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19.2000007629395px"><a href="mailto:tyler.crumpton@gmail.com" target="_blank">tyler.crumpton@gmail.com</a></span></div></div>
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