<p dir="ltr">This should probably be on the list that is specifically relevant to hams. I encourage it to remain on the listserv for the reference of other hams. </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 10, 2015 7:20 PM, "david" <<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net">ainut@knology.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    I do.  I would like for whatever I buy to last.  Should this be
    offline?<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 03/10/2015 06:17 PM, Alex Smith
      (K4RNT) wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace">Yes. Do you have a problem with that?</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
        <div>
          <div>
            <div dir="ltr"><font face="courier new, monospace">" 'With
                the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech
                censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom
                denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were
                uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning...
                The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we’re
                all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
                Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"<br>
                - Alex Smith<br>
                - Huntsville, Alabama metropolitan area USA</font></div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:59 PM, david
          <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Are they Chinese?
              <div>
                <div><br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <div>On 03/10/2015 04:24 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace">I have
                        a Baofeng, and they are surprisingly good. I
                        have the UV-5R, and it's quite nice for only 35
                        dollars. If you're willing to spend a little
                        more, the UV-F8+ and the GT-3TP are both ones
                        that are on my wish list to upgrade to. You can
                        get them on Amazon.</div>
                      <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace">I
                        highly recommend them, but be sure to get the
                        programming cable as well. They use a program
                        called CHIRP to set them up.</div>
                      <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div dir="ltr"><font face="courier new,
                              monospace">" 'With the first link, the
                              chain is forged. The first speech
                              censured, the first thought forbidden, the
                              first freedom denied, chains us all
                              irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by
                              Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning...
                              The first time any man's freedom is
                              trodden on, we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc
                              Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star
                              Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"<br>
                              - Alex Smith<br>
                              - Huntsville, Alabama metropolitan area
                              USA</font></div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at
                        4:06 PM, Erik Arendall <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:earendall@gmail.com" target="_blank">earendall@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                          <div dir="ltr">
                            <div>I have a Yaesu FT-60r that's a nice HT.
                              if you want budget, look up Baofeng on
                              Amazon. Ive not used them, but I have
                              heard they are a good for the price. </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 10,
                                  2015 at 3:59 PM, Satyam Nayak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nayaksatyam@gmail.com" target="_blank">nayaksatyam@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                    <div dir="ltr">My radio seems to
                                      have bitten it. Does anyone have
                                      recommendations for a good
                                      handheld radio? </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                            Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:55
                                            PM, Erik Arendall <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:earendall@gmail.com" target="_blank">earendall@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                            wrote:<br>
                                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
                                              <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/J-Pole-Antennas-For-144-and-440/" target="_blank">http://www.instructables.com/id/J-Pole-Antennas-For-144-and-440/</a></div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                      Tue, Mar 10, 2015
                                                      at 3:52 PM, Alex
                                                      Smith (K4RNT) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shadowhunter@gmail.com" target="_blank">shadowhunter@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                      wrote:<br>
                                                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
                                                        <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace">Tell
                                                          you what,</div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace">Let's
                                                          set up a group
                                                          project where
                                                          everyone
                                                          builds a
                                                          J-pole
                                                          antenna.
                                                          They're
                                                          relatively
                                                          easy, and
                                                          cheap to make
                                                          with copper
                                                          pipe.</div>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div class="gmail_extra"><span><br clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><font face="courier
                                                          new,
                                                          monospace">"
                                                          'With the
                                                          first link,
                                                          the chain is
                                                          forged. The
                                                          first speech
                                                          censured, the
                                                          first thought
                                                          forbidden, the
                                                          first freedom
                                                          denied, chains
                                                          us all
                                                          irrevocably.'
                                                          Those words
                                                          were uttered
                                                          by Judge Aaron
                                                          Satie as
                                                          wisdom and
                                                          warning... The
                                                          first time any
                                                          man's freedom
                                                          is trodden on,
                                                          we’re all
                                                          damaged." -
                                                          Jean-Luc
                                                          Picard,
                                                          quoting Judge
                                                          Aaron Satie,
                                                          Star Trek: TNG
                                                          episode "The
                                                          Drumhead"<br>
                                                          - Alex Smith<br>
                                                          - Huntsville,
                                                          Alabama
                                                          metropolitan
                                                          area USA</font></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Tue, Mar 10,
                                                          2015 at 3:51
                                                          PM, Alex Smith
                                                          (K4RNT) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shadowhunter@gmail.com" target="_blank">shadowhunter@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace">Only

                                                          if you give me
                                                          one. :)</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><span><br clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><font face="courier
                                                          new,
                                                          monospace">"
                                                          'With the
                                                          first link,
                                                          the chain is
                                                          forged. The
                                                          first speech
                                                          censured, the
                                                          first thought
                                                          forbidden, the
                                                          first freedom
                                                          denied, chains
                                                          us all
                                                          irrevocably.'
                                                          Those words
                                                          were uttered
                                                          by Judge Aaron
                                                          Satie as
                                                          wisdom and
                                                          warning... The
                                                          first time any
                                                          man's freedom
                                                          is trodden on,
                                                          we’re all
                                                          damaged." -
                                                          Jean-Luc
                                                          Picard,
                                                          quoting Judge
                                                          Aaron Satie,
                                                          Star Trek: TNG
                                                          episode "The
                                                          Drumhead"<br>
                                                          - Alex Smith<br>
                                                          - Huntsville,
                                                          Alabama
                                                          metropolitan
                                                          area USA</font></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Tue, Mar 10,
                                                          2015 at 3:37
                                                          PM, Erik
                                                          Arendall <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:earendall@gmail.com" target="_blank">earendall@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">just

                                                          use a high
                                                          gain yagi :-)</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Tue, Mar 10,
                                                          2015 at 3:32
                                                          PM, Alex Smith
                                                          (K4RNT) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shadowhunter@gmail.com" target="_blank">shadowhunter@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace">I'm

                                                          out of range
                                                          of the
                                                          Huntsville
                                                          repeaters.</div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace">I
                                                          can't reach
                                                          even the
                                                          Fayetteville,
                                                          TN repeater
                                                          from my house.
                                                          I can reach
                                                          the
                                                          Shelbyville,
                                                          TN repeater
                                                          though (don't
                                                          ask why)</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><span><br clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><font face="courier
                                                          new,
                                                          monospace">"
                                                          'With the
                                                          first link,
                                                          the chain is
                                                          forged. The
                                                          first speech
                                                          censured, the
                                                          first thought
                                                          forbidden, the
                                                          first freedom
                                                          denied, chains
                                                          us all
                                                          irrevocably.'
                                                          Those words
                                                          were uttered
                                                          by Judge Aaron
                                                          Satie as
                                                          wisdom and
                                                          warning... The
                                                          first time any
                                                          man's freedom
                                                          is trodden on,
                                                          we’re all
                                                          damaged." -
                                                          Jean-Luc
                                                          Picard,
                                                          quoting Judge
                                                          Aaron Satie,
                                                          Star Trek: TNG
                                                          episode "The
                                                          Drumhead"<br>
                                                          - Alex Smith<br>
                                                          - Huntsville,
                                                          Alabama
                                                          metropolitan
                                                          area USA</font></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Tue, Mar 10,
                                                          2015 at 3:10
                                                          PM, Jeff
                                                          Cotten <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:omegix@gmail.com" target="_blank">omegix@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Why not ham
                                                          radio?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          (That was a
                                                          joke, we don't
                                                          have an
                                                          antenna up
                                                          yet)<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Tue, Mar 10,
                                                          2015 at 2:57
                                                          PM, Erik
                                                          Arendall <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:earendall@gmail.com" target="_blank">earendall@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Why

                                                          not Google
                                                          hangouts?   
                                                          >=)</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Tue, Mar 10,
                                                          2015 at 2:30
                                                          PM, Jeff
                                                          Cotten <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:omegix@gmail.com" target="_blank">omegix@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>sure! 
                                                          I'll also take
                                                          notes from the
                                                          meeting and
                                                          put them up on
                                                          the Ham Shack
                                                          wiki page
                                                          afterwards :)<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Tue, Mar 10,
                                                          2015 at 2:11
                                                          PM, Alex Smith
                                                          (K4RNT) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shadowhunter@gmail.com" target="_blank">shadowhunter@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace">I
                                                          can't make it,
                                                          can you see if
                                                          someone can be
                                                          on IRC at the
                                                          time of the
                                                          meeting to
                                                          pass along
                                                          what's being
                                                          discussed?</div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><font face="courier
                                                          new,
                                                          monospace">"
                                                          'With the
                                                          first link,
                                                          the chain is
                                                          forged. The
                                                          first speech
                                                          censured, the
                                                          first thought
                                                          forbidden, the
                                                          first freedom
                                                          denied, chains
                                                          us all
                                                          irrevocably.'
                                                          Those words
                                                          were uttered
                                                          by Judge Aaron
                                                          Satie as
                                                          wisdom and
                                                          warning... The
                                                          first time any
                                                          man's freedom
                                                          is trodden on,
                                                          we’re all
                                                          damaged." -
                                                          Jean-Luc
                                                          Picard,
                                                          quoting Judge
                                                          Aaron Satie,
                                                          Star Trek: TNG
                                                          episode "The
                                                          Drumhead"<br>
                                                          - Alex Smith<br>
                                                          - Huntsville,
                                                          Alabama
                                                          metropolitan
                                                          area USA</font></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>On Tue,
                                                          Mar 10, 2015
                                                          at 12:22 PM,
                                                          Jeff Cotten <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:omegix@gmail.com" target="_blank">omegix@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
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                                                          Hi all, just a
                                                          reminder that
                                                          there will be
                                                          a HAM Radio
                                                          meeting at the
                                                          makeshop
                                                          tonight at 7pm
                                                          up in the AV
                                                          Area and
                                                          Library.<br>
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                                                          Whenever that
                                                          meeting wraps
                                                          up a couple of
                                                          us will be
                                                          discussing
                                                          what we want
                                                          the Little
                                                          Library to
                                                          look like, and
                                                          what resources
                                                          are on hand: 
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                                                          <div>*  This
                                                          Friday is the
                                                          Every-Other-Month

                                                          Bee-Keeper
                                                          Meeting at the
                                                          Botanical
                                                          Gardens. 
                                                          Meeting is at
                                                          6:30pm.  I
                                                          know nothing
                                                          about this,
                                                          but I'm hoping
                                                          to talk to
                                                          someone about
                                                          the new flow
                                                          hive and see
                                                          who in the
                                                          area purchased
                                                          one:<br>
                                                          <a href="http://www.honeyflow.com/" target="_blank">http://www.honeyflow.com/</a><br>
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                                                          *  This
                                                          Saturday is
                                                          the Drone Day
                                                          event in
                                                          Huntsville:  <a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/1544099752508912/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/events/1544099752508912/</a><br>
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                                                          <div>* Next
                                                          Saturday is
                                                          the Nerd
                                                          Rummage sale
                                                          at Makers
                                                          Local 256:  <a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/306806466181371/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/events/306806466181371/</a><br>
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                                                          <div>Happy
                                                          Making!<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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                                                          <div>Jeff<br>
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