<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:55 PM, david <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    If y'all don't mind ---<br>
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    Before you go, Jordan, please define some of your phrases, like:<br>
    "script kiddie classes" - Is that a reference to shell scripts,
    Arduino "sketch" scripts, or what?<br>
    "expensive toys" - is there a certain dollar point where this term
    applies?<br>
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    Thanks,<br>
    David Merchant<div><div class="h5"><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>hi david,<br><br>thanks for recognizing that we are a collective and not a single individual by using the honorific 'y'all'<br><br>script kiddie class... is the term script kiddie too new? we didn't think so... but it's a social class of tekkie cogs who are pacified with toys. they like arduino because it's programmed with ctrl+C . not C<br><br><div>expensive toys... what your paycheques from saic, etc. buy y'all so that y'all will keep being employees instead of investors</div><div><br></div><div>e pluribus unum - novus ordo seclorum,<br><br>JB<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div><div class="h5">
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    <div>On 04/22/15 17:47, Ryen Katherine
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      <div>Jordan,</div>
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      <div>If you find the tech to be not up to your security standards,
        then by all means, don't use it. But insulting those that have
        no problem using it is incredibly rude, and I must ask that you
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      <div>Ryen Katherine <br>
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        On Apr 22, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Jordan Beazley <<a href="mailto:gothsburnedrome@gmail.com" target="_blank">gothsburnedrome@gmail.com</a>>
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          <div dir="ltr">I forgot that I'm dealing with chuckleheads
            from Secret Access Is Cached here<br>
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            <a href="http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/02/04/1320223/hackers-clone-passports-in-driveby-rfid-heist" target="_blank">http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/02/04/1320223/hackers-clone-passports-in-driveby-rfid-heist</a><br>
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            it's not about the secrecy of the data stored. your position
            can be tracked with rfid so why you would voluntarily use
            that is beyond me<br>
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            and someone can tell more than when you walk past the
            scanners in wally world if they're looking for you<br>
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            those of you who actually do shit that you worry about
            rather than play with expensive toys to satiate the script
            kiddie class will know
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            <div>the rest of you nerds have fun now</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 2:47 PM,
              Stephan Henning <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shenning@gmail.com" target="_blank">shenning@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                <div dir="ltr">Pretty sure it's a bit more complicated
                  than that.</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at
                        1:14 PM, Hunter Fuller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hfuller@pixilic.com" target="_blank">hfuller@pixilic.com</a>></span>
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                          <p dir="ltr">Range is more of a function of
                            the reader in that way. A determined reader
                            has the potential to read tags for quite
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 22, 2015
                                11:23 AM, "david" <<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>>
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                                    Well, if these have such a limited
                                    range of only a few centimeters, you
                                    have to want it to be read, seems
                                    like.<br>
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                                    <div>On 04/22/15 07:47, Jordan
                                      Beazley wrote:<br>
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                                          <div>why are we wanting to
                                            bring government spying into
                                            a hackerspace again with son
                                            of rfid? weren't we all
                                            cutting rfids out of our gap
                                            clothes and library books a
                                            few years ago? now we want
                                            them?<br>
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                                          guys this is why I still use a
                                          nokia, which is smarter than a
                                          smart phone IMHO . none of
                                          that bilderberg beam stuff<br>
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                                        ray back me up on this<br>
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                                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed,
                                          Apr 22, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Kirk
                                          D Mccann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kirk.mccann@gmail.com" target="_blank">kirk.mccann@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                          wrote:<br>
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                                            <div dir="ltr">So have we
                                              decided to all go in
                                              together or will the shop
                                              just purchase a bunch for
                                              purchase.  
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                                              <div>Here is where the
                                                vending machine for
                                                components would be
                                                nice.  Though I think
                                                the vending machine
                                                would need to be the
                                                size of a small
                                                warehouse.<span><font color="#888888">
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                                                    <div>-Kirk</div>
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                                                  <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                    Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at
                                                    8:56 PM, Hunter
                                                    Fuller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hfuller@pixilic.com" target="_blank">hfuller@pixilic.com</a>></span>
                                                    wrote:<br>
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                                                      <p dir="ltr">I'll
                                                        get in on it. </p>
                                                      <div class="gmail_quote"><span>On
                                                          Apr 21, 2015
                                                          2:46 PM, "Jeff
                                                          Cotten" <<a href="mailto:omegix@gmail.com" target="_blank">omegix@gmail.com</a>>

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                                                          I am going to
                                                          place an order
                                                          for (what I
                                                          believe) is
                                                          the smallest
                                                          purchasable
                                                          NFC enabled
                                                          sticker.  I
                                                          plan on
                                                          sticking it on
                                                          the back of my
                                                          wristband as a
                                                          way to get
                                                          into the
                                                          makeshop.<br>
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                                                          If anyone
                                                          would like to
                                                          be added to
                                                          this order,
                                                          they are $1.13
                                                          each, shipping
                                                          and handling
                                                          and VAT around
                                                          $7 (it's out
                                                          of the UK).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a href="http://rapidnfc.com/item/313/clear_nfc_tags_ntag213_midas" target="_blank">http://rapidnfc.com/item/313/clear_nfc_tags_ntag213_midas</a><br>
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