<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Yeh. What the hell? I just spent 460$ on a portable server rack. It does not have RFIDs or Cameras yet, but is that expensive?<br><br></div>I am purchasing RFIDs now. I plan to upload fake identity data to them so idiots will clone the data and get detained by homeland security. We can all fight the good fight.<br><br></div><div>After that, I was going to head to the local Starbucks, get my mocha enema, and hack the planet using java. I might have to bust out the HTML.<br></div><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">....<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">If you are not actively exploiting the treasures that new technology gives, it is your loss. I for one cannot wait until they throw RFIDs in everything, it is just more to play with. How else will I get my free coffee with my fake internet money?<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Are you telling me that you do not want companies to invest in new crazy tech?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I would not have been tearing RFID's out of books, I would have been switching them.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">How are they going to tell who I am with my infrared laser mask and my shirt with 1000 rfid's in it?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">If you are pissed at people taking advantage of it, I do not know what to tell you. But how the hell are you to convince anyone that the sky really is falling without sending some of the rain their way?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">People do not listen until they need to. It is going to get worse and worse until one day the Laughing Man (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laughing_Man_%28Ghost_in_the_Shell%29">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laughing_Man_%28Ghost_in_the_Shell%29</a>) shows them wrong.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Security will never drive a consumer market, ever. How many times have you seen convenience over security? How many passwords do you have shared across multiple accounts? How many of these app startups have proven that they had weak security models? Why the hell do people use facebook when there are much better more secure social networking sites out there?<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br>You think business really care about security? Does your business use smartcards? Do they encrypt all there data? Why the hell are we all sending emails in plain text still? Why do I still have a social security card instead of a smart card? Is every protocol that you use encrypted? It is not like we still use 486's that bog down with simple ciphers. Why is CIFS still a thing? WHY THE HELL ARE PEOPLE STILL TRUSTING WINDOWS, AT ALL?<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Why the hell would someone put an RFID in a dam passport?<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Because a majority of the world does not give a dam until it personally effects them and some idiot convinced them that it was a good idea and it would save money or some crap. You want to fix the passport problem? Join the passport office fixer group, or submit some legislation to fix it. See how many circles you can go in before you give up. It is what they want to happen. Or just release the 0-day because it might motivate someone to actually do something about it. To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">There are solutions to our problems, but no one but a select few want them. The government likes the control, the general population likes the convenience, hackers like to play, and coders HATE to waste time. Who is left to fix it but a bunch of people that sound crazy to the average folk? Someone call you paranoid lately?<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">I do not have the time or the money to setup my quantum communication device or build a neutrino beam to bypass it all but some day I hope to.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">I know it sounds ridiculous because of the lack of evidence, and I am stating this because some guy at the recent RSA conference said that no secure device exists: What do you think a intergalactic space faring civilization uses to secure there comms? Radiowaves? AES-512 on silicon processors? HAH.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">We are still children in the universe of technology, and without perusing it further, and pushing it harder, we will never grow up.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">I am glad to see passion in any sense really, because too many people let stuff slide any more. I think we all should continue to fix this broken world. Form a dam opinion, but when you say it, please help me understand exactly what you are talking about.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">I figured since we were all on rants, I should add some stuff. Have a good day.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br>On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 3:55 PM, david <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
If y'all don't mind ---<br>
<br>
Before you go, Jordan, please define some of your phrases, like:<br>
"script kiddie classes" - Is that a reference to shell scripts,
Arduino "sketch" scripts, or what?<br>
"expensive toys" - is there a certain dollar point where this term
applies?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
David Merchant<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 04/22/15 17:47, Ryen Katherine
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>Jordan,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If you find the tech to be not up to your security standards,
then by all means, don't use it. But insulting those that have
no problem using it is incredibly rude, and I must ask that you
desist. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Ryen Katherine <br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<div><br>
On Apr 22, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Jordan Beazley <<a href="mailto:gothsburnedrome@gmail.com" target="_blank">gothsburnedrome@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">I forgot that I'm dealing with chuckleheads
from Secret Access Is Cached here<br>
<br>
<a href="http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/02/04/1320223/hackers-clone-passports-in-driveby-rfid-heist" target="_blank">http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/02/04/1320223/hackers-clone-passports-in-driveby-rfid-heist</a><br>
<br>
it's not about the secrecy of the data stored. your position
can be tracked with rfid so why you would voluntarily use
that is beyond me<br>
<br>
and someone can tell more than when you walk past the
scanners in wally world if they're looking for you<br>
<br>
those of you who actually do shit that you worry about
rather than play with expensive toys to satiate the script
kiddie class will know
<div><br>
</div>
<div>the rest of you nerds have fun now</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 2:47 PM,
Stephan Henning <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shenning@gmail.com" target="_blank">shenning@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Pretty sure it's a bit more complicated
than that.</div>
<div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at
1:14 PM, Hunter Fuller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hfuller@pixilic.com" target="_blank">hfuller@pixilic.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Range is more of a function of
the reader in that way. A determined reader
has the potential to read tags for quite
some distance. </p>
<div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 22, 2015
11:23 AM, "david" <<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
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Well, if these have such a limited
range of only a few centimeters, you
have to want it to be read, seems
like.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 04/22/15 07:47, Jordan
Beazley wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>why are we wanting to
bring government spying into
a hackerspace again with son
of rfid? weren't we all
cutting rfids out of our gap
clothes and library books a
few years ago? now we want
them?<br>
<br>
</div>
guys this is why I still use a
nokia, which is smarter than a
smart phone IMHO . none of
that bilderberg beam stuff<br>
<br>
</div>
ray back me up on this<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed,
Apr 22, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Kirk
D Mccann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kirk.mccann@gmail.com" target="_blank">kirk.mccann@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">So have we
decided to all go in
together or will the shop
just purchase a bunch for
purchase.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Here is where the
vending machine for
components would be
nice. Though I think
the vending machine
would need to be the
size of a small
warehouse.<span><font color="#888888">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Kirk</div>
</font></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at
8:56 PM, Hunter
Fuller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hfuller@pixilic.com" target="_blank">hfuller@pixilic.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">I'll
get in on it. </p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><span>On
Apr 21, 2015
2:46 PM, "Jeff
Cotten" <<a href="mailto:omegix@gmail.com" target="_blank">omegix@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
</span>
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<div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
I am going to
place an order
for (what I
believe) is
the smallest
purchasable
NFC enabled
sticker. I
plan on
sticking it on
the back of my
wristband as a
way to get
into the
makeshop.<br>
<br>
</div>
If anyone
would like to
be added to
this order,
they are $1.13
each, shipping
and handling
and VAT around
$7 (it's out
of the UK).<br>
<br>
<a href="http://rapidnfc.com/item/313/clear_nfc_tags_ntag213_midas" target="_blank">http://rapidnfc.com/item/313/clear_nfc_tags_ntag213_midas</a><br>
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