<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Jordan,</div><div><br></div><div>If you find the tech to be not up to your security standards, then by all means, don't use it. But insulting those that have no problem using it is incredibly rude, and I must ask that you desist. </div><div><br></div><div>Ryen Katherine <br><br><br></div><div><br>On Apr 22, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Jordan Beazley <<a href="mailto:gothsburnedrome@gmail.com">gothsburnedrome@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I forgot that I'm dealing with chuckleheads from Secret Access Is Cached here<br><br><a href="http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/02/04/1320223/hackers-clone-passports-in-driveby-rfid-heist">http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/02/04/1320223/hackers-clone-passports-in-driveby-rfid-heist</a><br><br>it's not about the secrecy of the data stored. your position can be tracked with rfid so why you would voluntarily use that is beyond me<br><br>and someone can tell more than when you walk past the scanners in wally world if they're looking for you<br><br>those of you who actually do shit that you worry about rather than play with expensive toys to satiate the script kiddie class will know<div><br></div><div>the rest of you nerds have fun now</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stephan Henning <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shenning@gmail.com" target="_blank">shenning@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Pretty sure it's a bit more complicated than that.</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Hunter Fuller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hfuller@pixilic.com" target="_blank">hfuller@pixilic.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Range is more of a function of the reader in that way. A determined reader has the potential to read tags for quite some distance. </p><div><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 22, 2015 11:23 AM, "david" <<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Well, if these have such a limited range of only a few centimeters,
    you have to want it to be read, seems like.<br>
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    <div>On 04/22/15 07:47, Jordan Beazley
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          <div>why are we wanting to bring government spying into a
            hackerspace again with son of rfid? weren't we all cutting
            rfids out of our gap clothes and library books a few years
            ago? now we want them?<br>
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          guys this is why I still use a nokia, which is smarter than a
          smart phone IMHO . none of that bilderberg beam stuff<br>
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        ray back me up on this<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Kirk D
          Mccann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kirk.mccann@gmail.com" target="_blank">kirk.mccann@gmail.com</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">So have we decided to all go in together or
              will the shop just purchase a bunch for purchase.  
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              <div>Here is where the vending machine for components
                would be nice.  Though I think the vending machine would
                need to be the size of a small warehouse.<span><font color="#888888">
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                    <div>-Kirk</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:56
                    PM, Hunter Fuller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hfuller@pixilic.com" target="_blank">hfuller@pixilic.com</a>></span>
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                      <p dir="ltr">I'll get in on it. </p>
                      <div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Apr 21, 2015
                          2:46 PM, "Jeff Cotten" <<a href="mailto:omegix@gmail.com" target="_blank">omegix@gmail.com</a>>
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                                  I am going to place an order for (what
                                  I believe) is the smallest purchasable
                                  NFC enabled sticker.  I plan on
                                  sticking it on the back of my
                                  wristband as a way to get into the
                                  makeshop.<br>
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                                If anyone would like to be added to this
                                order, they are $1.13 each, shipping and
                                handling and VAT around $7 (it's out of
                                the UK).<br>
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                                <a href="http://rapidnfc.com/item/313/clear_nfc_tags_ntag213_midas" target="_blank">http://rapidnfc.com/item/313/clear_nfc_tags_ntag213_midas</a><br>
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