<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>The small RFID tags are available through the treasurer for $1 each.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:56 PM, david <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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What ever happened to that effort?<div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div>On 04/22/15 20:12, Jordan Beazley
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 7:54 PM,
WebDawg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:webdawg@gmail.com" target="_blank">webdawg@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Yeh. What the hell? I just spent 460$ on a
portable server rack. It does not have RFIDs or
Cameras yet, but is that expensive?<br>
<br>
</div>
I am purchasing RFIDs now. I plan to upload fake
identity data to them so idiots will clone the data
and get detained by homeland security. We can all
fight the good fight.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>After that, I was going to head to the local
Starbucks, get my mocha enema, and hack the planet
using java. I might have to bust out the HTML.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">....<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">If you are not actively
exploiting the treasures that new technology
gives, it is your loss. I for one cannot wait
until they throw RFIDs in everything, it is just
more to play with. How else will I get my free
coffee with my fake internet money?<br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Are you telling me that
you do not want companies to invest in new crazy
tech?<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">I would not have been
tearing RFID's out of books, I would have been
switching them.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">How are they going to
tell who I am with my infrared laser mask and my
shirt with 1000 rfid's in it?<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">If you are pissed at
people taking advantage of it, I do not know
what to tell you. But how the hell are you to
convince anyone that the sky really is falling
without sending some of the rain their way?<br>
</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">People do not listen
until they need to. It is going to get worse
and worse until one day the Laughing Man (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laughing_Man_%28Ghost_in_the_Shell%29" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laughing_Man_%28Ghost_in_the_Shell%29</a>)
shows them wrong.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Security will never
drive a consumer market, ever. How many times
have you seen convenience over security? How
many passwords do you have shared across
multiple accounts? How many of these app
startups have proven that they had weak
security models? Why the hell do people use
facebook when there are much better more
secure social networking sites out there?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><br>
You think business really care about
security? Does your business use smartcards?
Do they encrypt all there data? Why the hell
are we all sending emails in plain text
still? Why do I still have a social security
card instead of a smart card? Is every
protocol that you use encrypted? It is not
like we still use 486's that bog down with
simple ciphers. Why is CIFS still a thing?
WHY THE HELL ARE PEOPLE STILL TRUSTING
WINDOWS, AT ALL?<br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">Why the hell would
someone put an RFID in a dam passport?<br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">Because a majority of
the world does not give a dam until it
personally effects them and some idiot
convinced them that it was a good idea and it
would save money or some crap. You want to
fix the passport problem? Join the passport
office fixer group, or submit some
legislation to fix it. See how many circles
you can go in before you give up. It is what
they want to happen. Or just release the
0-day because it might motivate someone to
actually do something about it. To improve is
to change; to be perfect is to change often.<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">There are solutions to
our problems, but no one but a select few want
them. The government likes the control, the
general population likes the convenience,
hackers like to play, and coders HATE to waste
time. Who is left to fix it but a bunch of
people that sound crazy to the average folk?
Someone call you paranoid lately?<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">I do not have the time
or the money to setup my quantum communication
device or build a neutrino beam to bypass it
all but some day I hope to.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">I know it sounds
ridiculous because of the lack of evidence,
and I am stating this because some guy at the
recent RSA conference said that no secure
device exists: What do you think a
intergalactic space faring civilization uses
to secure there comms? Radiowaves? AES-512
on silicon processors? HAH.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">We are still children
in the universe of technology, and without
perusing it further, and pushing it harder, we
will never grow up.<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">I am glad to see
passion in any sense really, because too many
people let stuff slide any more. I think we
all should continue to fix this broken world.
Form a dam opinion, but when you say it,
please help me understand exactly what you are
talking about.<br>
</div>
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</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">I figured since we were
all on rants, I should add some stuff. Have a
good day.<br>
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<div><br>
hey web dawg,<br>
<br>
we know y'all and say good for y'all if it makes y'all
happy. it's more green for us who make the stuff. didn't
really read all of this but what we did see made us laugh</div>
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y'all have a good day, too.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>sent from our ms-dos 3.14<br>
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On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 3:55 PM, david <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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If y'all don't mind ---<br>
<br>
Before you go, Jordan, please define
some of your phrases, like:<br>
"script kiddie classes" - Is that a
reference to shell scripts, Arduino
"sketch" scripts, or what?<br>
"expensive toys" - is there a certain
dollar point where this term applies?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
David Merchant
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<div>On 04/22/15 17:47, Ryen
Katherine wrote:<br>
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<div>Jordan,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If you find the tech to be
not up to your security
standards, then by all means,
don't use it. But insulting
those that have no problem
using it is incredibly rude,
and I must ask that you
desist. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Ryen Katherine <br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<div><br>
On Apr 22, 2015, at 4:05 PM,
Jordan Beazley <<a href="mailto:gothsburnedrome@gmail.com" target="_blank">gothsburnedrome@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I forgot that
I'm dealing with
chuckleheads from Secret
Access Is Cached here<br>
<br>
<a href="http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/02/04/1320223/hackers-clone-passports-in-driveby-rfid-heist" target="_blank">http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/02/04/1320223/hackers-clone-passports-in-driveby-rfid-heist</a><br>
<br>
it's not about the secrecy
of the data stored. your
position can be tracked
with rfid so why you would
voluntarily use that is
beyond me<br>
<br>
and someone can tell more
than when you walk past
the scanners in wally
world if they're looking
for you<br>
<br>
those of you who actually
do shit that you worry
about rather than play
with expensive toys to
satiate the script kiddie
class will know
<div><br>
</div>
<div>the rest of you nerds
have fun now</div>
</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On
Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at
2:47 PM, Stephan Henning
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shenning@gmail.com" target="_blank">shenning@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Pretty
sure it's a bit more
complicated than
that.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Wed, Apr 22,
2015 at 1:14
PM, Hunter
Fuller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hfuller@pixilic.com" target="_blank">hfuller@pixilic.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Range
is more of a
function of
the reader in
that way. A
determined
reader has the
potential to
read tags for
quite some
distance. </p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On
Apr 22, 2015
11:23 AM,
"david" <<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
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Well, if these
have such a
limited range
of only a few
centimeters,
you have to
want it to be
read, seems
like.<br>
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<br>
<br>
<div>On
04/22/15
07:47, Jordan
Beazley wrote:<br>
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<div>
<div>why are
we wanting to
bring
government
spying into a
hackerspace
again with son
of rfid?
weren't we all
cutting rfids
out of our gap
clothes and
library books
a few years
ago? now we
want them?<br>
<br>
</div>
guys this is
why I still
use a nokia,
which is
smarter than a
smart phone
IMHO . none of
that
bilderberg
beam stuff<br>
<br>
</div>
ray back me up
on this<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Wed, Apr 22,
2015 at 7:34
AM, Kirk D
Mccann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kirk.mccann@gmail.com" target="_blank">kirk.mccann@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">So
have we
decided to all
go in together
or will the
shop just
purchase a
bunch for
purchase.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Here is
where the
vending
machine for
components
would be
nice. Though
I think the
vending
machine would
need to be the
size of a
small
warehouse.<span><font color="#888888">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Kirk</div>
</font></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Tue, Apr 21,
2015 at 8:56
PM, Hunter
Fuller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hfuller@pixilic.com" target="_blank">hfuller@pixilic.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">I'll
get in on it.
</p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><span>On
Apr 21, 2015
2:46 PM, "Jeff
Cotten" <<a href="mailto:omegix@gmail.com" target="_blank">omegix@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div><br>
</div>
I am going to
place an order
for (what I
believe) is
the smallest
purchasable
NFC enabled
sticker. I
plan on
sticking it on
the back of my
wristband as a
way to get
into the
makeshop.<br>
<br>
</div>
If anyone
would like to
be added to
this order,
they are $1.13
each, shipping
and handling
and VAT around
$7 (it's out
of the UK).<br>
<br>
<a href="http://rapidnfc.com/item/313/clear_nfc_tags_ntag213_midas" target="_blank">http://rapidnfc.com/item/313/clear_nfc_tags_ntag213_midas</a><br>
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