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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/06/2015 01:07 PM, david wrote:<br>
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Using ssh, it asks for password but neither 'raspberry' nor blank
works. I tried as root and as 'pi' and as 'Pi'. <br>
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UPDATE: 'pi' with 'raspberry' works now for ssh! This is
definitely weird.<br>
<br>
And, both wifi and wired are working simultaneously. Whoever made
this image was thinking ahead. Kudos to them.<br>
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If I can just figure out why it only works sometimes... :)<br>
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David<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/06/2015 01:00 PM, Hunter Fuller
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<p dir="ltr">Do you at least get a password prompt? If not, what
error?</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 6, 2015 12:58 PM, "david" <<a
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> All my machines are
Linux/UNIX/IRIX, except the one (mandatory) Winblows box,
which is a laptop.<br>
3 desktops (one of which apparently won't run Linux more
than 48 hours, using AMD 83xx or 93xx processor) and 6
SoC's, not including Arduino's or tv servers.<br>
<br>
Good catch about nmap! It verified the RPi address. I
still can't ssh into it, even though it is not supposed to
have any passwords...<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
David Merchant<br>
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<div>On 10/06/2015 12:25 PM, Michael Patton wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/troubleshooting/hardware/networking/ip-address.md"
target="_blank">https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/troubleshooting/hardware/networking/ip-address.md</a>
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<div>do you have another linux device? If so, you can
use nmap to discover the connections on the network
- one of which is hopefully your pi.</div>
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<div>I'm not sure what too you could use for windows,
but there has to be one: arp -a maybe?</div>
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<div>I had SEVERE problems with my pi working on a
network -- because the cat5 cable I had was a POS.
Once I swapped it out, all of the problems I had
with the pi disappeared.</div>
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<div>don't kick puppies. :)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:05
AM, david <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I can't get
into the RPi 2. Bah. Just downloaded a new
image to an SD card and I cannot ssh. <br>
Can't login direct because I can't find the
stupid small HDMI-normal HDMI cable now.
Keyboard and mouse are connected via USB hub but
I can't see the output. Grrrr.<br>
<br>
I don't know if this new image uses a static IP
for itself but I think so. It *should* be at
192.186.10.1 on wireless but can't find out it's
address on wired. <br>
<br>
Think I'll go out and kick some puppies.<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
David</font></span>
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<div>On 10/06/2015 08:28 AM, Michael Patton
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<div dir="ltr">I'm late to the game but
are you still having problems?
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<div>I had issues with my rpi last year
and dhcp not working blah blah.</div>
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<div>What does your: <span
style="color:black;font-family:monospace,Courier;font-size:14px;line-height:1.3em;background-color:rgb(249,249,249)">sudo
cat /etc/network/interfaces say?</span></div>
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<div><span
style="color:black;font-family:monospace,Courier;font-size:14px;line-height:1.3em;background-color:rgb(249,249,249)">Have
you set up the static IP in there?</span></div>
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Sorry if you answered this already
and I'm assuming you have -- I need
more coffee.</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 5,
2015 at 11:10 PM, david <span
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<div text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I got the
router setup. It's the PC's
(Linux and one Winblows) that I
now need to also configure.<br>
Strange that .7.2 would work
already, but not .10.1.<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
David</font></span>
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<div>On 10/05/2015 10:59 PM,
James Fluhler wrote:<br>
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<div>I can turn on my rpi in
the morning and tell your
for certain; and maybe I
completely mis understood
your question. I will also
be the first to admit my
knowledge of advanced
networking is nil. But I
always thought that
basically you need
everything in IP addresses
to be identical minus the
last 3 numbers after the
So AAA.BBB.CCC.### </div>
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<div>Now if the issue is
that stock the IP address
of the beagle bone or rpi
is not taking an address
from your router; I think
you can use ifconfig to
set the ip and subnet
address. </div>
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<div>The only way I could
think you could get say
your pc at 192.168.1.xxx
to talk to 192.168.2.xxx
is to have some device
with two network
interfaces connected to
both networks that will
also share network data
between the net works. Eg
you could connect a router
to a router thus combining
networks with different
IPs and different SSIDs.</div>
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<div>You could probably use
your rpi to do this
setting up say the
wireless to serve dhcp and
act as an access point and
the wired connected to
your of network, or even
two wireless adapters on
the rpi. </div>
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<div>Idk like is said im not
an advanced networking
person, I have messed a
little with virtual
networks and I believe
it's possible you could
connect to say
192.168.2.30 from a
computer with the address
192.168.1.xxx via a
virtual lan. But I can't
say I know exactly how to
do this on Linux or PC
well enough to explain in
an email. But I use a
virtual lan for connecting
to the configuration IP
address of a wireless back
haul I setup between two
office buildings at work.
That said the back haul is
connected to the same
network I am on its just
its configuration server
is on a virtual lan. </div>
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<div>Just a few thoughts
maybe someone has better
suggestions<br>
<br>
James F.</div>
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PM, david <<a
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<div> Appreciate the help,
Hunter. Is it not easy
to have everything in
the 192.168.x.x address
range? (Mask
255.255.0.0?) I can't
remember any of this but
bits and pieces...<br>
<br>
My router and firewall
to the outside world are
set not to pass
192.168.x.x out to the
world (as such) but I'm
using all bridges
internally (but there
may still be one brouter
in the mix; not sure.)<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
David<br>
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<div>On 10/05/2015 10:32
PM, Hunter Fuller
wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">The long
and the short of it
is subnet masking.
Basically, in home
networking, your
subnet mask is
almost always
255.255.255.0 also
known as a /24
(slash 24). What
this means is that
the first three
octets of the IPs of
two devices have to
be the same before
they can talk.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Routers
are capable of
breaking this
boundary, but of
course your router
can only know about
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://192.168.1.0/24" target="_blank">192.168.1.0/24</a> so that
won't help you. </p>
<p dir="ltr">If the
raspberry pi is
handing out
addresses in a
different range then
you need to put your
laptop in that range
temporarily, log
into the pi, and
reconfigure it to
not do that. Unless
you intend for it to
create its own
separate network
that is. </p>
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0
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solid;padding-left:1ex">Seems
like lately I've
forgotten
everything I've
ever known.
<sigh><br>
<br>
I need to be able
to access subnets
at home;
everything is
behind a firewall
to the Internet.<br>
<br>
My PC's are all
dhcp in the
192.168.1.x
address space.<br>
<br>
I'd like to be
able to talk to
other addresses
from these PC's.<br>
<br>
Specifically:<br>
192.168.7.2 --
Beaglebone Black
default IP Address
works just fine.<br>
<br>
but<br>
<br>
192.168.10.1 --
particular RPi 2
address from
downloaded image
does not. Of
course, that Pi is
a wireless one,
while if I turn
off the wireless
and connect a
house cable, it
gets assigned
192.168.1.56 (for
example) and that
works fine. BUT,
the wifi address
is still not
accessible unless
I make the wifi
laptop get on the
RPi 2 as it's dhcp
server and then
the laptop gets
assigned
192.168.10.x.
<sigh>
(Same for the
Android tablet.)
How do I get
everything to play
nice with each
other?<br>
<br>
Bought a NAS
server and set
it's address to
192.168.200.1 --
and *nothing* in
the house could
see it until I
changed it's
address to a
192.168.1.x.<br>
<br>
Help, please.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
David Merchant<br>
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