<div dir="ltr">David,<div>You probably don't need this link for installing Debian Jessie on RPi2, <div>but I'm including it for documentation for others.<div><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi2">https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi2</a><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Susan Spencer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:susan.spencer@gmail.com" target="_blank">susan.spencer@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">No I haven't heard from Bill, but this thread is already off-list...<div>You can forward this to the ML General list if you want.<br></div><div><br><div><div>Debian Jessie has base level GUI support, requires additional packages:</div><div><a href="https://packages.debian.org/jessie/x11/xorg" target="_blank">https://packages.debian.org/jessie/x11/xorg</a><br></div></div></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:53 PM, david <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Wonder if Jessie has a gui by default?<span><br>
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    <div>On 10/28/2015 07:31 PM, Susan Spencer
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hey I heard back from our embedded expert.
        <div>He says the Debian Wheezy server build doesn't have *any*
          xwindows support installed. There are many, many libs that
          should be installed prior to installing lightdm.</div>
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        <div>Our best approach is to get the wheezy server build and
          install the xwindowing libs (including lightdm). Then of
          course install the stratux files and Qt, then put on the SD
          card.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Susan
          Spencer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:susan.spencer@gmail.com" target="_blank">susan.spencer@gmail.com</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">Okay, in the meantime I'll try installing the
              image to an SD card and installing lightdm.</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:12
                    PM, david <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span>
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                            <div>On 10/27/2015 07:11 PM, Susan Spencer
                              wrote:<br>
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                                <div>lightdm and Qt aren't installing on
                                  the stratux RPi2 image?</div>
                                <div>I have a suggestion.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>There's a local guy who is a
                                  linux-kernel-engineer/linux-embedded-engineer
                                  who is highly enthusiastic about
                                  ham-radio/weather/GPS. He may be able
                                  to see the extra magic required to
                                  install a windowing environment.</div>
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                                <div>He's in San Francisco until Friday,
                                  but he usually answers email within 24
                                  hours.</div>
                                <div>Do you mind if I ping him about
                                  your project?</div>
                                <div>We could meet on Saturday to test
                                  what's happening with lightdm, etc.</div>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 27,
                                  2015 at 5:43 PM, david <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span>
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                                    <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Also, the stratux
                                      authors are doing great things. 
                                      They release a full image that one
                                      can write to the SD card that goes
                                      into the RPi2 and everything is
                                      configured, with even the source
                                      code in the image that fits that
                                      particular distribution.  <br>
                                      However, they seem to have chosen
                                      to not include any windowing
                                      environment, only text terminals. 
                                      "Startx" is non-existent.  When I
                                      try to install lightdm, it fails
                                      miserably.  So, running Qt on the
                                      RPi2 is a non-starter.  Btw, the
                                      environment is Debian Wheezy.  The
                                      ADS-B software starts up when the
                                      image boots, so it's really easy
                                      for people who don't know what an
                                      operating system is.  (However,
                                      they don't teach people how and
                                      why to do an orderly shutdown so I
                                      suspect the file system will
                                      become corrupt over time,
                                      especially since they have several
                                      log files going all the time.)<span><br>
                                        <br>
                                        David<br>
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                                        <div>On 10/27/2015 05:16 PM,
                                          Susan Spencer wrote:<br>
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                                              <div>Yep, pulling files at
                                                compile time seems scary
                                                *and* interesting.</div>
                                              <div>Our weather sensor
                                                monitor recently failed,
                                                this would be a good
                                                replacement.</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>That's a rather
                                                unfortunate Software
                                                Center problem. Is it
                                                broken in your virtual
                                                Linux or desktop Linux?</div>
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                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at
                                                4:54 PM, david <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span>
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                                                    Welcome aboard,
                                                    Susan!  <br>
                                                    I've done some Qt
                                                    projects but
                                                    followed recipes
                                                    from books.  That
                                                    does me no good at
                                                    the moment where I'm
                                                    trying to figure
                                                    out:<br>
                                                    1. cross compile (or
                                                    even native compile
                                                    if I can find Qt 5.5
                                                    for RPi2, with
                                                    graphics.)<br>
                                                    2. where to find the
                                                    toolsets for
                                                    Beaglebone Black
                                                    (BBB) or RPi2. 
                                                    Focusing on the Pi
                                                    at the moment.  <br>
                                                    3. how to combine
                                                    multiple compilers
                                                    in one project
                                                    (yeah, the original
                                                    author did that!) 
                                                    Several modules are
                                                    in the "go"
                                                    language, which I
                                                    had never heard of. 
                                                    The other modules
                                                    seem to be regular
                                                    c/c++.  However,
                                                    during the build
                                                    process, several
                                                    files are pulled
                                                    from git DURING
                                                    compile time!  That
                                                    blows my mind and is
                                                    brand new to me.<br>
                                                    4. and so on.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Their code (which is
                                                    working mostly) is
                                                    what I'm trying to
                                                    fork; and change
                                                    their IMU (9 DOF)
                                                    sensor to a
                                                    different one.  They
                                                    like the MPU6050 and
                                                    while I have one, it
                                                    appears to not be as
                                                    stable or as
                                                    accurate as the
                                                    BNO055. 
                                                    Additionally, they
                                                    use a GPS (built
                                                    onto their IMU board
                                                    using I2C) and I
                                                    would like to use a
                                                    different (higher
                                                    resolution) GPS that
                                                    uses serial.<br>
                                                    This is the
                                                    "stratux" project,
                                                    hosted on reddit
                                                    (grrrrrr) and
                                                    github.  They are
                                                    cool with me using
                                                    different sensors. 
                                                    If you're
                                                    interested, search
                                                    on "stratux" and
                                                    "ads-b."<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    My development
                                                    desktop is running
                                                    Ubuntu but I'm
                                                    having trouble
                                                    updating some things
                                                    as apparently the
                                                    package manager is
                                                    broken and I can't
                                                    seem to fix it. 
                                                    Most "apt-get"
                                                    commands work ok but
                                                    I'd rather stay in a
                                                    windowing
                                                    environment for
                                                    routine stuff like
                                                    that.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Oh, for the days of
                                                    SGI IRIX Development
                                                    System...<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        David</font></span>
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                                                        <div>On
                                                          10/27/2015
                                                          04:38 PM,
                                                          Susan Spencer
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Hi
                                                          David,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div>Can I
                                                          join your Qt
                                                          sessions? I
                                                          can split the
                                                          cost with you
                                                          and/or help
                                                          you *barter*.</div>
                                                          <div>I know Qt
                                                          enough to
                                                          build one
                                                          particular C++
                                                          project, I
                                                          want to know
                                                          more about it.</div>
                                                          <div>I have
                                                          Linux 64bit,
                                                          Ubuntu 14.04,
                                                          with Qt5.5,
                                                          some Raspberry
                                                          Pi's and other
                                                          bits and kits
                                                          lying about if
                                                          we want to use
                                                          them to build
                                                          a project. I
                                                          have some
                                                          experience
                                                          with git.</div>
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                                                          <div>- Susan </div>
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                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Tue, Oct 27,
                                                          2015 at 4:25
                                                          PM, david <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:ainut@knology.net" target="_blank">ainut@knology.net</a>></span>
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                                                          with to mentor
                                                          me regarding
                                                          Qt setup and
                                                          projects?  I
                                                          seem to be
                                                          lost in a maze
                                                          of twisty
                                                          passages all
                                                          alike.<br>
                                                          Environments
                                                          available:
                                                          Winblows 7
                                                          (and virtual
                                                          Linux under
                                                          it), desktop
                                                          Linux of
                                                          Fedora,
                                                          Ubuntu, and
                                                          Debian, and
                                                          targets of:<br>
                                                          beaglebone
                                                          black and very
                                                          recently
                                                          Raspberry Pi
                                                          2.  Am willing
                                                          to negotiate
                                                          cost or offer
                                                          help on your
                                                          projects or
                                                          ???<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Also, git is
                                                          throwing me
                                                          now. 
                                                          <sigh><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          It's BARTER
                                                          TIME!<br>
                                                          (Cash is
                                                          acceptable
                                                          too.)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          David Merchant<br>
                                                          <br>
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