[General] Cheers from C7 space in Atlanta

Sun Jun 12 18:50:59 CDT 2011

ALSO,

We just got 300 stepper motors for $2/each. You guys want some? NEMA 23
size, other specs aren't confirmed yet.

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:47 PM, ryan martin <ryan.jason.martin at gmail.com>wrote:

> 1. He has strong opinion of how the direction of Freeside should go that
> is not part of our manifesto / creed . (I don't have any clear examples of
> that)
> 2. There are many people who are living in his new space at C7. He will
> bring them into Freeside at various hours to work on C7 stuff.
> 3. He will be using Freeside as a catalyst to get his maker space/Co-Op at
> C7 going. He has already asked for stuff and he has signified he would like
> to build stuff for his space. It's no coincedence that he chose Metropolitan
> as a space after visiting Freeside late last year.
> 4. He seems to have ulterior motives.
>
> ^^^ The 4 reasons I was blocked as a member, personally. These are about a
> year old now. They have a system in place for voting a new member in. It's
> anonymous so we have no idea who blocked the vote or how many did. I dunno
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:35 PM, WebDawg <webdawg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That sound ignorant for one of the larger spaces.  Espically one that is
>> part of the leading spaces.  Sure you are talking to the right people?
>> Sounds more like a corporation then anything...tryimg to protect its
>> assets.  Shame on them.
>>
>> Web...
>> On Jun 12, 2011 6:31 PM, "ryan martin" <ryan.jason.martin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Long answer: Freeside has made it very clear that they want nothing to
>> do
>> > with C7, even though we are next door to each other. Our members are
>> denied
>> > membership at Freeside and it's to the point of Freeside billing
>> themselves
>> > as Atlanta's Best Hackerspace and multiple posts on the hackerspaces
>> mailing
>> > list complaining that 'not real hackerspaces' are listed on the wiki. Ah
>> > dunno, we send them stuff here and there (like lumber and the like) but
>> > never have gotten a thank you. What can I say?
>> >
>> > Short Answer: We tried to work with Freeside. We opened shop next door
>> to
>> > them in the hopes we would work together. It failed.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Tim H <crashcartpro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm very glad to hear from you guys again! welcome to the movement of
>> >> hackerspaces. lol
>> >> Looks like your doing pretty well. We have a member here who has been
>> >> playing with forging and casting, but hasn't got anything perfected
>> yet. I
>> >> wouldn't be surprised if he hit you guys up for some advice.
>> (especially
>> >> with the sand casting.)
>> >>
>> >> I hope this isn't too touchy, but I have to ask why you guys didn't
>> join
>> >> Freeside. I recognized the buildings right away. I'm not suggesting you
>> >> should have, but I'm very interested in the process of those who start
>> vs
>> >> join spaces. I hear some of the stories, the difference of opinions,
>> the
>> >> different visions, the fights. It has torn spaces apart before. BUT for
>> the
>> >> most part those splits end up being the best thing for both parties,
>> and it
>> >> creates a broader ecosystem that can sustain more styles and more
>> people, as
>> >> opposed to a single system trying to fit everyone.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, it's just totaly great that you thought to look us up again. We
>> >> should definitely find some excuses to hang out again. Your place or
>> mine.
>> >> ;)
>> >>
>> >> -Crash Cart (Tim)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:19 PM, ryan martin <
>> ryan.jason.martin at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> As for our foundry:
>> >>>
>> >>> We have a Johnson Gas 900SS (
>> >>>
>> http://www.johnsongas.com/industrial/manuals/pdfs/900SSDirectSparkUVSafety.pdf
>> )
>> >>> with 2 control boxes. One uses LP gas, the other uses natural gas.
>> >>>
>> >>> This includes having 6 different crucibles in various sizes, up to and
>> >>> including a gallon. We also scored the tongs, casting boxes (dozens
>> of..),
>> >>> and other steel implements for dealing with red hot graphite and
>> liquid
>> >>> metal.
>> >>>
>> >>> We've been working with various techniques for making molds. We
>> started
>> >>> with making our own green sand and pressing patterns, then upgraded to
>> >>> petrobond (
>> >>> http://www.budgetcastingsupply.com/Jupiter_Blend_Foundry_Sand.php)
>> and
>> >>> are pretty happy with it.
>> >>>
>> >>> We have also been playing with lost wax and lost foam casting.
>> >>> The surprising secret to lost foam seems to be dipping the foam pieces
>> into
>> >>> drywall texturizer before casting. This stuff hardens into a thin
>> shell of
>> >>> limestone which has been giving us some pretty spectacular results.
>> We've
>> >>> also tried casting foam that is painted with wax to create a smoother
>> >>> texture, which worked out but needs more testing.
>> >>>
>> >>> We are eager to try investment casting ABS parts from a 3d printer, if
>> >>> possible. We don't have access to a printer so we're on hold on that
>> little
>> >>> experiment.
>> >>>
>> >>> Our entire foundry operation is mounted onto carts and is mobile, so
>> we
>> >>> hope to be able to take this little operation on the road sometime.
>> >>>
>> >>> Another neat tool we've been using is a wood block with a steel plate
>> >>> attached as a bit in a palm nailer. This is our ghetto-rigged attempt
>> to
>> >>> create an alternative to a pneumatic shake/jolt machine.
>> >>>
>> >>> Lots of pics on the FB page of our tools and tests.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:54 AM, ryan martin <
>> ryan.jason.martin at gmail.com
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Ooops, I forgot the goods! We have a facebook group here (
>> >>>> http://www.facebook.com/c7atlanta) with tons of pictures. Take a
>> look.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> One of our operating principles is to provide semi-daily meals for
>> >>>> members. We announce what/when on the FB group. It's been pretty
>> interesting
>> >>>> trying to feed our entire membership as part of our space, and our
>> croc pots
>> >>>> have become pretty sophisticated. It's definitely one of the biggest
>> draws
>> >>>> from the folks that operate out of the commercial space we are in.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:12 AM, strages <strages at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> First off, congrats on starting a new hackerspace! Despite the
>> >>>>> growing numbers, there just aren't enough in the world yet. I'm
>> >>>>> interested to hear more about your sand casting station and the hot
>> >>>>> air balloons! We just moved into a new space that's about ~1000sqft
>> >>>>> more than the one you visited us in. We're still working to get it
>> >>>>> back into a usable configuration, but making good progress. We'll
>> >>>>> likely do an open house style event when it's done, which you're all
>> >>>>> welcome to. July 2nd we're doing our annual Retro Gaming & Computing
>> >>>>> Night which you're also welcome to attend. We'll certainly do our
>> >>>>> best to be hospitable .
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Raymond
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:52 PM, ryan martin
>> >>>>> <ryan.jason.martin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> > Howdy Makers!
>> >>>>> > My name is Ryan and I came through Makers Local 256 some year and
>> a
>> >>>>> half
>> >>>>> > ago. I was with Freddy, Justin, and Bethany and we where at the
>> time
>> >>>>> > travelling and speaking about the Pirate Party. Freddy and Justin
>> >>>>> spent some
>> >>>>> > time hanging the sign at the old space, and in general we still
>> speak
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>> > your community there as being one of the most open and awesome
>> spaces
>> >>>>> we
>> >>>>> > ever saw.
>> >>>>> > After nearly a year travelling we decided we wanted to plant roots
>> and
>> >>>>> start
>> >>>>> > a space up on our own. We discovered during the tour that most
>> >>>>> hackerspaces
>> >>>>> > aren't as politically interested as we are as individuals, so we
>> >>>>> decided the
>> >>>>> > best bet was to start a new space around us rather than try to
>> join an
>> >>>>> > existing space. We scraped and recruited and found enough members
>> for
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> > pretty good sized space in Atlanta.
>> >>>>> > We've been in our space a year now and we really want to 'step up
>> our
>> >>>>> game'
>> >>>>> > a bit. We have talked about it and we are looking for a sister
>> space
>> >>>>> to work
>> >>>>> > with. We'd like to find a space that would like to do some
>> >>>>> > remote conferencing with us; to let us remotely participate in
>> talks
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> > classes, and maybe even to do the same back.
>> >>>>> > We have an operational foundry and sand casting station, about 200
>> >>>>> > firebricks, 2 hot air balloons, and about 14 members. The trip
>> between
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> > spaces is only about 3 hours long, so it's totally reasonable that
>> >>>>> sometimes
>> >>>>> > we might even be able to bring most of our membership that-a-ways
>> for
>> >>>>> > events.
>> >>>>> > Either way, there is a bit of an update to anyone who wondered
>> what
>> >>>>> happened
>> >>>>> > to 'those pirate guys'. Hope to hear back sometime :)
>> >>>>> > Ryan Martin
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