[General] Laser Cutter Ventilation

Tue May 8 13:02:25 CDT 2012

1) I'll defer to Phil's opinion on the donations then. That does sound
infinitely easier.

2) Yes, various connectors/adapters/etc. will be required. An 8" duct
should have equivalent cross section to four 4" ducts, but for now, I'd
really love it if someone had a 2x4" to 1x8" Y shaped adapter. Or maybe
even better: a 2x6" to 1x8" Y shaped adapter and some 2x4" to 1x6" adapters
so we could get a full 4 hoses on there without losing any suction.
Also, some 4" duct valves would be awesome.
I have two 4" x 25' black collapsible flexy ducts already at the shop
Whatever else y'all can think of.

3) Phil, of course it's listed as being used for an "indoor grow farm".
They can't just list it as "Weed Growing Supplies R' Us",  now can they?
^_^

-Candleknight

(John Kelly)

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> From: Enabrin Tain <enabrintain at yahoo.com>
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> You'd give money to John. With rare exceptions, its just easier to do
> projects like this on a 'personal finance' level and then have the final
> project donated to the shop. Count me in for the cost of the ducting.
> (EnabrinTain translates "hookers and blow" to an adapter to hook an 8" pipe
> to the 4" pipe that's currently in use ;-) ((or however wide dryer hose is))
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>
> Also it is hilarious to me that amazon assumes that this is all for
> setting up an "indoor grow farm".
>
> Well wishes,
> Phil
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>  From: David Reimer <davidreimerartist at gmail.com>
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> I definitely want to help fund this. What is this metaphorical hat I'll be
> dumping money into? That is, would I be donating to Makers or to you
> personally?
>
> David
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, John Kelly <candleknight at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello all!
> >A while back I was working on seriously upgrading the ventilation system
> for the laser cutter and electronics lab. I got through the design phase,
> but sort of lost steam and interest just shy of actually ordering and
> installing the parts, in part due to a temporary hiatus I was taking after
> getting 'burned out' playing with the laser cutter (pun intended). Well,
> now I'm back at it and the last time I tried to use the laser cutter it
> gave off some very stinky vapors, and after my throat started tingling I
> was acutely reminded of the need to finish this project. Respirator masks
> shouldn't be required attire for the laser cutter room.
> >
> >I remember the first time I got really into using the laser cutter I
> started to develop a cough after a few weeks, and now sometimes just being
> in the fab lab a few hours after someone has been cutting something, you
> can just sort of smell the death hanging in the air (only 'mostly'
> hyperbole). I addition to the laser cutter, this upgrade would also add
> ventilation and fume removal capabilities to the electronics work area and
> soldering stations, whose fumes are less pungent and immediately
> irritating, but are still not exactly healthy and need to be taken care of
> . I know some of us like to joke around about the "delicious fumes" and
> whatnot, but in all honesty this is a very real safety hazard that is long
> past due to be dealt with.
> >
> >My picks for equipment, pricing, and some research notes and links are on
> the wiki at the link below.
> >
> >
> https://256.makerslocal.org/wiki/40_Watt_Laser_Cutter#Ventilation_Improvement
> >
> >
> >For those of you too lazy to click the link, here's the cliffnotes
> version of the "Finalized" Materials List:
> >1x 8" InLine blower Fan @ $120
> >3x 8" ducting @ $25 each = $75
> >1x Blower Speed Controller @ $22
> >Total cost ? $217 ? $30 (for hookers and blow)
> >
> >Anyone who wants to throw some money into the hat to help with the cost
> would be much appreciated!
> >
> >I'm hoping to start ordering parts/installing stuff latter this week-ish
> or next week.
> >
> >*coughcough**wheeeeeeze*
> >-Candleknight
> >
> >(John Kelly)
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> 1. I plan to attach it wherever I can. Eventually it'd be nice to have it
> go out through the roof or vent stack or wall or something. For now though,
> I'm just planning on routing it to the giant exhaust fan in the chemistry
> area to avoid having to deal with any facilities issues. Baby steps.
>
> 2. If I'm going to be taking donations to help fund this, then I plan on
> making this 'our' property. Unless we want to order it through ML256's
> amazon account for some kind of tax/ nonprofit perks reason, I was just
> planning on ordering it myself and donating it to the shop, so any money
> you want to chip in would count as a donation to ML256 if we do it right.
> I'm not sure of the exact logistics though. Might be easiest to have the
> shop reimburse me, and then we all make "unrelated" donations for our
> pledge amounts. Or something. Taxes are hard...
>
> -Candleknight
>
> (John Kelly)
>
>
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> > I imagine you plan to attach to the building's vent stack?
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> > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, John Kelly <candleknight at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > For those of you too lazy to click the link, here's the cliffnotes
> > version
> > > of the "Finalized" Materials List:
> > > 1x 8" InLine blower Fan @ $120
> > > 3x 8" ducting @ $25 each = $75
> > > 1x Blower Speed Controller @ $22
> > > Total cost ? $217 ? $30 (for hookers and blow)
> >
> >
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 11:44:27 -0500
> > From: David Reimer <davidreimerartist at gmail.com>
> > To: General discussion about makerslocal
> >        <general at lists.makerslocal.org>
> > Subject: Re: [General] Laser Cutter Ventilation
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> > I definitely want to help fund this. What is this metaphorical hat I'll
> be
> > dumping money into? That is, would I be donating to Makers or to you
> > personally?
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, John Kelly <candleknight at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all!
> > > A while back I was working on seriously upgrading the ventilation
> system
> > > for the laser cutter and electronics lab. I got through the design
> phase,
> > > but sort of lost steam and interest just shy of actually ordering and
> > > installing the parts, in part due to a temporary hiatus I was taking
> > after
> > > getting 'burned out' playing with the laser cutter (pun intended).
> Well,
> > > now I'm back at it and the last time I tried to use the laser cutter it
> > > gave off some very stinky vapors, and after my throat started tingling
> I
> > > was acutely reminded of the need to finish this project. Respirator
> masks
> > > shouldn't be required attire for the laser cutter room.
> > >
> > > I remember the first time I got really into using the laser cutter I
> > > started to develop a cough after a few weeks, and now sometimes just
> > being
> > > in the fab lab a few hours after someone has been cutting something,
> you
> > > can just sort of smell the death hanging in the air (only 'mostly'
> > > hyperbole). I addition to the laser cutter, this upgrade would also add
> > > ventilation and fume removal capabilities to the electronics work area
> > and
> > > soldering stations, whose fumes are less pungent and immediately
> > > irritating, but are still not exactly healthy and need to be taken care
> > of
> > > . I know some of us like to joke around about the "delicious fumes" and
> > > whatnot, but in all honesty this is a very real safety hazard that is
> > long
> > > past due to be dealt with.
> > >
> > > My picks for equipment, pricing, and some research notes and links are
> on
> > > the wiki at the link below.
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://256.makerslocal.org/wiki/40_Watt_Laser_Cutter#Ventilation_Improvement
> > >
> > > For those of you too lazy to click the link, here's the cliffnotes
> > version of
> > > the "Finalized" Materials List:
> > > 1x 8" InLine blower Fan @ $120
> > > 3x 8" ducting @ $25 each = $75
> > > 1x Blower Speed Controller @ $22
> > > Total cost ? $217 ? $30 (for hookers and blow)
> > >
> > > *Anyone who wants to throw some money into the hat to help with the
> cost
> > > would be much appreciated!*
> > >
> > > I'm hoping to start ordering parts/installing stuff latter this
> week-ish
> > > or next week.
> > >
> > > *coughcough**wheeeeeeze*
> > > -Candleknight
> > >
> > > (John Kelly)
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > General mailing list
> > > General at lists.makerslocal.org
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> > >
> >
> >
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