[General] A Letter From Mojave - A Rocket Flight Opportunity For Code - Project Prometheus of Masten Space Systems
Ethan Chew
spacefelix at gmail.com
Wed Jul 16 17:49:27 CDT 2014
Cool!
So we are talking about the following things we want to do:
- In-Flight Automated Photography
- Overlay in-flight metadata from on-board sensors; GPS coordinates,
altitude, temperature, air pressure, CO2, speed, and time from
launch (T+).
- Can be done either in-flight or as post-processing (encode flight
data as exif, add overlay in post).
- Record flight data for post-flight modelling and visualization
opportunities.
- Record 6-dof, acceleration and skin temperature data in-flight.
- Calculate ballistic coefficient to add to visualization
opportunities.
And that would mean the following sensors:
- Video/Photo Camera
- GPS (speed & altitude can be derived from GPS data.)
- Altimeter
- Thermometer (setup for ambient and skin temperature readings)
- Barometer
- CO2 Gas Sensor
- Clock (can be done by the Raspberry Pi.)
- 6-dof sensing
- Accelerometers
Made a wiki: https://256.makerslocal.org/wiki/Flight_Code_Project
- Ethan
P.S. Of administrative note; I got a clarification from Masten about
educational institutions flying for free. At this point in time, the
Prometheus Project is open only to educational institutions as Masten is
seeking to encourage high school and college students to get into
engineering. Therefore, the project would have to involve students in
designing,
building, and programming the flight experiments. The project could either
be run as a class and teaches UAH and other Huntsville high school students
or the makers involved would academically advise a student team.
Kix, taking a page out of your book, how did you run your program with
FIRST Robotics when you were in the Makers Local 256 shop?
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Phillip Showers <phillip.showers at gmail.com>
wrote:
> you definitely want 6-dof for post flight modelling as well. tie in a
> common variable like time and pump in stuff like 6-dof, acceleration and
> skin temp. You can probably just calculate the ballistic coefficient from
> cad but that gets you started on some really fun visualization
> opportunities.
>
> Phil
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Satyam Nayak <nayaksatyam at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I ++1 Josh's suggestion about adding metadata to the picture.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:57 AM, WebDawg <webdawg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Even better to have it upload that data somewhere after the launch for
>>> viewing after.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Joshua Pritt <ramgarden at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would be neat to overlay some data on each photo like GPS coords,
>>>> altitude, temperature, air pressure, CO2, speed, and time from launch (T+).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Ethan Chew <spacefelix at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just suggested to Masten that they add a picture/video camera (of the
>>>>> size and quality level of the one in your cell phone) to the sensor suite.
>>>>> ;)
>>>>> On Jul 16, 2014 5:08 AM, "Satyam Nayak" <nayaksatyam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was thinking of doing something similar to HSIS where we put a
>>>>>> camera on auto trigger and took a bunch of pictures of the flight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:40 AM, WebDawg <webdawg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone plan to put any effort into this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Ethan Chew <spacefelix at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> P.S. Note on the sensor suite; the hardware in the suite will be
>>>>>>>> determined by Masten. However, at this point in time of Project
>>>>>>>> Prometheus, Masten is open to input on what sensor hardware to install.
>>>>>>>> Please send sensor hardware suggestions to prometheus at masten.aero.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Ethan Chew <spacefelix at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2014 6:34 AM, "Jeff Cotten" <omegix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Hey Ethan, will the raspberry pi be connected to the internet
>>>>>>>>> during the test?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, no. To avoid interfering with Xombie's control system, the
>>>>>>>>> crew has told me no transmitters are allowed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > If I wrote a piece of code that logged into #makerslocal and
>>>>>>>>> reported back the altitude, would it it be able to reach the freenode
>>>>>>>>> server?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You'd need to make an isolated flight data recorder. Due to the
>>>>>>>>> restriction on transmitters, you can only download your data off a shore
>>>>>>>>> connection when the vehicle is back on the ground.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Ethan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Ethan Chew <
>>>>>>>>> spacefelix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Take note, it is my current understanding that
>>>>>>>>> educational institutions get to fly for free.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> From Masten Space Systems in Mojave, CA (
>>>>>>>>> http://masten.aero/), an opportunity to fly code on a vertical
>>>>>>>>> takeoff and landing rocket (such as Xombie:
>>>>>>>>> http://youtu.be/A5b9LnzjGgU) on Project Prometheus:
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> http://masten.aero/2014/05/project-prometheus/
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> In summary; there is a Raspberry Pi on board that is
>>>>>>>>> connected to a sensor suite. Send Masten some code you want to run during
>>>>>>>>> a flight that processes inputs from the sensors during the flight. The
>>>>>>>>> project is for the rapid, streamlined development of tools relating to;
>>>>>>>>> visual navigation, landing detection, mass estimation and position/attitude
>>>>>>>>> estimation. You can reach them at prometheus at masten.aero with
>>>>>>>>> input and questions about the program.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Quote:
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> the Masten Team has also been thinking about ways we could
>>>>>>>>> engage the broader community and increase accessibility to our VTVL
>>>>>>>>> vehicles. One of the largest barriers to entry for any technology developer
>>>>>>>>> seeking to conduct aerospace flight testing is access to a vehicle. Limited
>>>>>>>>> access to an integrated GPS/IMU navigation system, flight-rated computing
>>>>>>>>> platforms, and sensors present additional challenges to innovators. In the
>>>>>>>>> spirit of broadening access to aerospace resources, we have had a project
>>>>>>>>> cooking in the background called Prometheus.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Project Prometheus is a Masten program designed to foster the
>>>>>>>>> development of flight-test ready technologies by innovators in academic and
>>>>>>>>> research settings. By implementing a standardized interface between Masten
>>>>>>>>> vehicles and experimental software and hardware tools, Prometheus will
>>>>>>>>> provide a streamlined, efficient path for technology maturation throughout
>>>>>>>>> the course of tool conception, development and flight test. Access to
>>>>>>>>> uniform, flight-tested hardware and software development framework for
>>>>>>>>> innovators will ultimately reduce integration, development and other flight
>>>>>>>>> test costs.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> - Ethan/spacefelix
>>>>>>>>> >>
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>>>>>>>> V/r Ethan
>>>>>>>>
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