[ML-General] 3d printer

Thu Aug 11 12:38:47 CDT 2016

The clone is here
http://www.hobbyking.com/mobile/viewproduct.asp?idproduct=90843

It's identical to the Wanhao. In my opinion I would spend the extra $120 and get the Wanhao as its a much more stout construction. 

@Tim the prop/costuming community doesn't mess around. They want something that just works as they can tinker they'd prefer not to and just have something WORK. So word travels fast in that community and the word is Wanhao with a leaning to Ultimaker in the elitist groups but you could buy 5 Wanhaos for the price of one Ultimaker LOL

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> On Aug 11, 2016, at 10:44 AM, Norm Marshall <normcooks at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It is a heated bed. I have not had a great deal of success with ABS filament. I'm considering building an enclosure, but PLA is super easy to work with. I don't remember if I mentioned it or not but the tinkering I have had to do has been because I messed with things I shouldn't have. Changing and loading filament was a challenge at first but now I'm quite proficient at it.
> 
> Norm Marshall
> 
> 
> On Aug 11, 2016 10:40 AM, "Tim H" <crashcartpro at gmail.com> wrote:
> Daniel,
> 
> Thank you for bringing up the Wanhao. I thought about mentioning it too, but don't know as much as you or Norm.
> I knew Norm's has been printing like a champ. Glad to hear others are equally as happy with it.
> Does it come with a heated bed? or has that not been an issue for your ABS printing?
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:52 AM, David <ainut at knology.net> wrote:
>> Which is the clone?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 08/11/2016 03:58 AM, smeeon at gmail.com wrote:
>>> I'll second the Wanhao Duplicator, it has more features than the printerbot, and the community behind it is strong. I purchased one after seeing Norms print quality. I know from the prop replica world it's the dominant printer. I have a friend who runs 3 of them non-stop for the past 6 months. And I know of 4 close friends that own one and are all happy. 
>>> 
>>> The print volume is 200x200x180mm with a heated bed 
>>> Capable of printing all the varieties of filament. I print a lot of ABS and I've had zero issue with warping even without a case. 
>>> 
>>> And if you don't like the $400 price tag hobbyking.com sells a clone for $275 I know one person who owns one and is happy with it. Lots of success from that model too. 
>>> 
>>> I know of 2 "pros" who own the $3000 Ultimaker 2 and they have just as many clogs, Failed prints, and other issues as the $400 printer guys. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Daniel Valdez
>>> Audio Insight, Inc.
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>>> Office 256-885-1995
>>> Cell 256-783-6983
>>> 
>>> We Make Technology Work
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>>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Norm Marshall <normcooks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I paid $400 for the Wanhao Duplicator i3 and have no regrets. It's at the shop if you want to take a look at it. The current model has a few upgrades over mine, but the price is still the same. The tinkering I have had to do has been more or less related to bed leveling or my own user errors.
>>>> 
>>>> Norm Marshall
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 9, 2016 10:24 AM, "Hunter Fuller" <hfuller at pixilic.com> wrote:
>>>> Well, hell. Half of those caveats apply to ink jet printers as well. 
>>>> 
>>>> :D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:22 Tim H <crashcartpro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> All 3D printers. (at least of the "Fused Deposition Modeling" type)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have most recently been able to play around with a Makerbot Replicator 5th gen printer.
>>>>> Purported to be the pinnacle of the "just press print" machines.
>>>>> And it mostly succeeds. But you still have to go through leveling the bed, the filament still jams, feed rates need to be adjusted depending on the filament type and vendor and the humidity in the room and how the stars are aligned. It isn't just this one expensive printer. It's just the nature of this technology.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I still recommend the Printrbot Simple Metal to a lot of people. it's really good for the cost. Everyone I know who has bought one has been printing within 30minutes. However, everyone I know who's bought one has also started making major modifications to the printer within the first week. That might be more because I know a lot of tinkerers and makers though. :P
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just my observations on the matter.
>>>>> -Tim
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:56 AM, David <ainut at knology.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Tim, are you saying that all 3D printers require much tinkering and fixing?  Or just the Prusa i3?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 08/09/2016 09:55 AM, Tim H wrote:
>>>>>>> Printrbot Simple Metal
>>>>>>> http://printrbot.com/project/simple-metal/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Easy enough to get up and running with any 3d printer today. but you'll be constantly tinkering and fixing little things.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:31 AM, David <ainut at knology.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Is this one the best for the money?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How much trouble are they to use?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://shop.prusa3d.com/en/3d-printers/53-original-prusa-i3-mk2-3d-printer.html
>>>>>>>> 
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