[ML-General] Looking to develop curriculum for childrens technology camps

[david]

oooohhh, ouch.


On 02/07/2016 10:47 PM, Jon Doezal wrote:
> Not just any phone, a microphone.
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Chris Bero <bigbero at gmail.com
> <mailto:bigbero at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Where does the quad core android phone in my pocket fit on
>         this chart?
>
>
>     Psh, that's a phone not a computer, silly.
>
>     Chris Bero
>
>
>     On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Matt <brimstone at the.narro.ws
>     <mailto:brimstone at the.narro.ws>> wrote:
>
>         On 02/07/2016 07:52 PM, david wrote:
>         > Nits to pick:
>         > Computers:
>         > mainframe -- huge, multi-million dollar dinosaurs that have
>         1 to few
>         > processors but engineered to serve thousands of ($$$)
>         terminals and
>         > designed to centralize data and functions.  Examples IBM,
>         Unisys, Honeywell;
>         > mini-computer -- washing machine sized computers, mostly for
>         engineering
>         > departments.  examples DEC PDP 8, PDP 11, Wang mini's, and
>         so on.  Cost
>         > tens of thousands of dollars and up;
>         > micro-computers -- desktop machines originally designed for
>         > single-person computing, but boy, did it grow up!  Cost
>         around $1,000
>         > and up;
>         > Now, we have what I term the pico-computers (to follow the
>         name history)
>         > -- mostly designed as embedded device, grew into
>         system-on-chip capable
>         > of handling some desktop functions as long as they are not
>         > comute-intensive.  Cost $5 to a few hundred, with
>         peripherals covering a
>         > wide spectrum.
>         >
>         > What's next?  A nano-comuter (quantum machines?)  Interfaces
>         to humans
>         > still gonna cost the same as all tiers but the (outdated)
>         mainframe.
>         > Capable of enormous compute power, memory
>         requirements/accomodations
>         > will be phenomenally large.
>         >
>         > Meaningless historical trivia:  The IBM PC was designed as a
>         *terminal*
>         > only, for their mainframes and the IBM engineers and
>         marketers had
>         > deduced it was incapable of operating as a stand-alone computer.
>         > Follow-on trivia: in 1983, I designed and installed a
>         network of PC's in
>         > a department in a nuclear power plant, for purposes of database,
>         > record-keeping, and some compute-intensive jobs.  When IBM
>         came out and
>         > examined what I had done, they turned white as a sheet and
>         said, out
>         > loud and to the room, "This is impossible."  And after the
>         PC has
>         > already established itself as a capable (sort of)
>         stand-alone office
>         > computer.  Yet it worked for many years.  My OS of choice at
>         that time
>         > was QNX, a variant of UNIX, of course.
>         >
>         > David Merchant
>         > Man, how I do ramble sometimes.
>
>         David,
>
>         Where does the quad core android phone in my pocket fit on
>         this chart?
>
>         #matt
>
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