[ML-Hams] Getting better line-of-sight at the make shop

Jeff Cotten omegix at gmail.com
Thu Mar 3 17:01:53 CST 2016


I personally setup 2 WRT54G, one for my KK4DTX-1 node, and one for the
shop's KM4KER-1 node.

Many of the routers upstairs were WRT54G ver5+, which I read was
incompatible with bbhn OLSR.

I believe the v5+ routers may still be usable for non-ham mesh, such as
non-bbhn OLSR, freifunk and BATMAN.
Or as OpenWRT \ DD-WRT 802.11 repeaters.

I'll do an inventory on Tuesday to see how many of the remaining wireless
routers are bbhn-OLSR compatible.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Hunter Fuller <hfuller at pixilic.com> wrote:

> There are at least 10 wrt54g units that work. a few wap54g that will
> also run the same firmware I believe.
>
> Personally I will be using directional prosumer non-ham gear such as
> the Ubiquiti NanoStations. I have like 5 of those.
> --
> Hunter Fuller
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Bruce Campbell <phillybruce at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > How many usable routers where eventually accumulated at the shop?
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Jeff Cotten <omegix at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Moving this to the Ham List :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Last conversation I remember was that the tower would be too difficult
> to
> >> take back down whenever we eventually vacate 414 Stevens.  A folding
> mast
> >> could probably be taken apart and hauled off with about an hours worth
> of
> >> effort.
> >>
> >> For the tower, the HARC members said they might be willing to erect it
> on
> >> my property on Monte Sano as long as HARC can mount some equipment to
> it.
> >> If we can find a volunteer with even higher altitude (and power
> >> availability) that would be even better.
> >>
> >> I don't want people thinking I'm trying to get a free tower though, so
> if
> >> anyone hates this idea please let me know.  I know my wife hates the
> idea of
> >> putting the tower at our place, she's convinced the neighbors will never
> >> talk to us again.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Tim H <crashcartpro at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I thought we had a tower to put up, for this purpose.
> >>> The plan was to install it with a tilt kit, so we could actually
> service
> >>> it
> >>> but then finding or fabricating a tilt kit for the tower continually
> >>> eluded us.
> >>> so I'm not sure, but I'd have to think that is still worth looking
> into.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Hunter Fuller <hfuller at pixilic.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't care what solution we go with, but I want this SO BAD!!! For
> >>>> consumer grade gear even, not for Ham.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Hunter Fuller
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Chris Bero <bigbero at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> > 30 feet? We can measure it this weekend.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > .. We've also got the antenna tower, but I like the rooftop mount
> >>>> > idea.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Chris Bero
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jeff Cotten <omegix at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Anyone have a good guess on how tall the make shop is?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Jeff Cotten <omegix at gmail.com>
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> I thought I would pass this on the makeshop ham people.  These are
> >>>> >>> some
> >>>> >>> suggestions for what we could use to get better altitude at the
> make
> >>>> >>> shop.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> I'm guessing The easiest \ less likely to get stolen one, is the
> >>>> >>> roof top
> >>>> >>> mount.  Since we can't drill holes in the building, we'd have to
> >>>> >>> sandbag it
> >>>> >>> to the roof.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Non-penetrating-roof-mount-w-mast-pole-for-satellite-dish-and-antenna-/182012333204
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>> >>> From: Robert Ehresman <robert.ehresman at gmail.com>
> >>>> >>> Date: Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:29 AM
> >>>> >>> Subject: Re: ham broadband in 5 points
> >>>> >>> To: Jeff Cotten <omegix at gmail.com>
> >>>> >>> Cc: Darryl Holder <trebour at bellsouth.net>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Jeff:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> There are roof mounts for masts that rest on the roof and use
> >>>> >>> ballast
> >>>> >>> such as cinder blocks or sand bags. Usually good for 10 or 15
> feet.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Non-penetrating-roof-mount-w-mast-pole-for-satellite-dish-and-antenna-/182012333204
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Slip up masts can be tied to an eave, or a fence post or something
> >>>> >>> like
> >>>> >>> that in a non-permanent fashion. A pricey solution for just WIFI.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Easy-Up-EZ-TM-50-44-Telescoping-Mast-TV-WIFI-HAM-Antenna-Push-Up-Pole-/390916130748
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> I think you can find an example or two in the MCM Electronics
> >>>> >>> catalog.
> >>>> >>> Maybe cheaper on eBay.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Its worth pointing out that a bolt on tripod can also be mounted
> >>>> >>> using
> >>>> >>> ballast.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-3ft-Tripod-for-Satellite-Dish-and-Antenna-Mast-CB-Ham-Radio-Pivoting-Base-/161041381083
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Collinear verticals are omnidirectional. Yagis are directive to an
> >>>> >>> angular sector in front of the small end of the antenna, the angle
> >>>> >>> being
> >>>> >>> determined by the number of elements.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> 73;
> >>>> >>> Bob KV4PC
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>
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