[ML-Hams] Getting better line-of-sight at the make shop

Thu Mar 3 17:09:31 CST 2016

my bad, didn't know there was a version restriction.
--
Hunter Fuller


On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Jeff Cotten <omegix at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I personally setup 2 WRT54G, one for my KK4DTX-1 node, and one for the
> shop's KM4KER-1 node.
>
> Many of the routers upstairs were WRT54G ver5+, which I read was
> incompatible with bbhn OLSR.
>
> I believe the v5+ routers may still be usable for non-ham mesh, such as
> non-bbhn OLSR, freifunk and BATMAN.
> Or as OpenWRT \ DD-WRT 802.11 repeaters.
>
> I'll do an inventory on Tuesday to see how many of the remaining wireless
> routers are bbhn-OLSR compatible.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Hunter Fuller <hfuller at pixilic.com> wrote:
>>
>> There are at least 10 wrt54g units that work. a few wap54g that will
>> also run the same firmware I believe.
>>
>> Personally I will be using directional prosumer non-ham gear such as
>> the Ubiquiti NanoStations. I have like 5 of those.
>> --
>> Hunter Fuller
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Bruce Campbell <phillybruce at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > How many usable routers where eventually accumulated at the shop?
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Jeff Cotten <omegix at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Moving this to the Ham List :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Last conversation I remember was that the tower would be too difficult
>> >> to
>> >> take back down whenever we eventually vacate 414 Stevens.  A folding
>> >> mast
>> >> could probably be taken apart and hauled off with about an hours worth
>> >> of
>> >> effort.
>> >>
>> >> For the tower, the HARC members said they might be willing to erect it
>> >> on
>> >> my property on Monte Sano as long as HARC can mount some equipment to
>> >> it.
>> >> If we can find a volunteer with even higher altitude (and power
>> >> availability) that would be even better.
>> >>
>> >> I don't want people thinking I'm trying to get a free tower though, so
>> >> if
>> >> anyone hates this idea please let me know.  I know my wife hates the
>> >> idea of
>> >> putting the tower at our place, she's convinced the neighbors will
>> >> never
>> >> talk to us again.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Tim H <crashcartpro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I thought we had a tower to put up, for this purpose.
>> >>> The plan was to install it with a tilt kit, so we could actually
>> >>> service
>> >>> it
>> >>> but then finding or fabricating a tilt kit for the tower continually
>> >>> eluded us.
>> >>> so I'm not sure, but I'd have to think that is still worth looking
>> >>> into.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Hunter Fuller <hfuller at pixilic.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I don't care what solution we go with, but I want this SO BAD!!! For
>> >>>> consumer grade gear even, not for Ham.
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Hunter Fuller
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Chris Bero <bigbero at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > 30 feet? We can measure it this weekend.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > .. We've also got the antenna tower, but I like the rooftop mount
>> >>>> > idea.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Chris Bero
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jeff Cotten <omegix at gmail.com>
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Anyone have a good guess on how tall the make shop is?
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Jeff Cotten <omegix at gmail.com>
>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> I thought I would pass this on the makeshop ham people.  These
>> >>>> >>> are
>> >>>> >>> some
>> >>>> >>> suggestions for what we could use to get better altitude at the
>> >>>> >>> make
>> >>>> >>> shop.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> I'm guessing The easiest \ less likely to get stolen one, is the
>> >>>> >>> roof top
>> >>>> >>> mount.  Since we can't drill holes in the building, we'd have to
>> >>>> >>> sandbag it
>> >>>> >>> to the roof.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Non-penetrating-roof-mount-w-mast-pole-for-satellite-dish-and-antenna-/182012333204
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >>>> >>> From: Robert Ehresman <robert.ehresman at gmail.com>
>> >>>> >>> Date: Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:29 AM
>> >>>> >>> Subject: Re: ham broadband in 5 points
>> >>>> >>> To: Jeff Cotten <omegix at gmail.com>
>> >>>> >>> Cc: Darryl Holder <trebour at bellsouth.net>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Jeff:
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> There are roof mounts for masts that rest on the roof and use
>> >>>> >>> ballast
>> >>>> >>> such as cinder blocks or sand bags. Usually good for 10 or 15
>> >>>> >>> feet.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Non-penetrating-roof-mount-w-mast-pole-for-satellite-dish-and-antenna-/182012333204
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Slip up masts can be tied to an eave, or a fence post or
>> >>>> >>> something
>> >>>> >>> like
>> >>>> >>> that in a non-permanent fashion. A pricey solution for just WIFI.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Easy-Up-EZ-TM-50-44-Telescoping-Mast-TV-WIFI-HAM-Antenna-Push-Up-Pole-/390916130748
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> I think you can find an example or two in the MCM Electronics
>> >>>> >>> catalog.
>> >>>> >>> Maybe cheaper on eBay.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Its worth pointing out that a bolt on tripod can also be mounted
>> >>>> >>> using
>> >>>> >>> ballast.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-3ft-Tripod-for-Satellite-Dish-and-Antenna-Mast-CB-Ham-Radio-Pivoting-Base-/161041381083
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Collinear verticals are omnidirectional. Yagis are directive to
>> >>>> >>> an
>> >>>> >>> angular sector in front of the small end of the antenna, the
>> >>>> >>> angle
>> >>>> >>> being
>> >>>> >>> determined by the number of elements.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> 73;
>> >>>> >>> Bob KV4PC
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
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