[ML-General] Smallest NFC tags on market

Jeff Cotten omegix at gmail.com
Tue Jul 7 14:01:28 CDT 2015 

The small RFID tags are available through the treasurer for $1 each.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:56 PM, david <ainut at knology.net> wrote:

>  What ever happened to that effort?
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> On 04/22/15 20:12, Jordan Beazley wrote:
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> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 7:54 PM, WebDawg <webdawg at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>  Yeh.  What the hell?  I just spent 460$ on a portable server rack.  It
>> does not have RFIDs or Cameras yet, but is that expensive?
>>
>>  I am purchasing RFIDs now.  I plan to upload fake identity data to them
>> so idiots will clone the data and get detained by homeland security.  We
>> can all  fight the good fight.
>>
>>  After that, I was going to head to the local Starbucks, get my mocha
>> enema, and hack the planet using java.  I might have to bust out the HTML.
>>
>>  ....
>>
>>  If you are not actively exploiting the treasures that new technology
>> gives, it is your loss.  I for one cannot wait until they throw RFIDs in
>> everything, it is just more to play with.  How else will I get my free
>> coffee with my fake internet money?
>>
>>  Are you telling me that you do not want companies to invest in new
>> crazy tech?
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>>  I would not have been tearing RFID's out of books, I would have been
>> switching them.
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>>  How are they going to tell who I am with my infrared laser mask and my
>> shirt with 1000 rfid's in it?
>>
>>  If you are pissed at people taking advantage of it, I do not know what
>> to tell you.  But how the hell are you to convince anyone that the sky
>> really is falling without sending some of the rain their way?
>>
>>  People do not listen until they need to.  It is going to get worse and
>> worse until one day the Laughing Man (
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laughing_Man_%28Ghost_in_the_Shell%29)
>> shows them wrong.
>>
>>  Security will never drive a consumer market, ever.  How many times have
>> you seen convenience over security?  How many passwords do you have shared
>> across multiple accounts?  How many of these app startups have proven that
>> they had weak security models?  Why the hell do people use facebook when
>> there are much better more secure social networking sites out there?
>>
>> You think business really care about security?  Does your business use
>> smartcards?  Do they encrypt all there data?  Why the hell are we all
>> sending emails in plain text still?  Why do I still have a social security
>> card instead of a smart card?  Is every protocol that you use encrypted?
>> It is not like we still use 486's that bog down with simple ciphers.  Why
>> is CIFS still a thing?  WHY THE HELL ARE PEOPLE STILL TRUSTING WINDOWS, AT
>> ALL?
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>>  Why the hell would someone put an RFID in a dam passport?
>>
>>  Because a majority of the world does not give a dam until it personally
>> effects them and some idiot convinced them that it was a good idea and it
>> would save money or some crap.  You want to fix the passport problem?  Join
>> the passport office fixer group,  or submit some legislation to fix it.
>> See how many circles you can go in before you give up.  It is what they
>> want to happen.  Or just release the 0-day because it might motivate
>> someone to actually do something about it.  To improve is to change; to be
>> perfect is to change often.
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>>  There are solutions to our problems, but no one but a select few want
>> them.  The government likes the control, the general population likes the
>> convenience, hackers like to play, and coders HATE to waste time.  Who is
>> left to fix it but a bunch of people that sound crazy to the average folk?
>> Someone call you paranoid lately?
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>>  I do not have the time or the money to setup my quantum communication
>> device or build a neutrino beam to bypass it all but some day I hope to.
>>
>>  I know it sounds ridiculous because of the lack of evidence, and I am
>> stating this because some guy at the recent RSA conference said that no
>> secure device exists:  What do you think a intergalactic space faring
>> civilization uses to secure there comms?  Radiowaves?  AES-512 on silicon
>> processors?  HAH.
>>
>>  We are still children in the universe of technology, and without
>> perusing it further, and pushing it harder, we will never grow up.
>>
>>  I am glad to see passion in any sense really, because too many people
>> let stuff slide any more.  I think we all should continue to fix this
>> broken world.  Form a dam opinion, but when you say it, please help me
>> understand exactly what you are talking about.
>>
>>  I figured since we were all on rants, I should add some stuff.  Have a
>> good day.
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> hey web dawg,
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> we know y'all and say good for y'all if it makes y'all happy. it's more
> green for us who make the stuff. didn't really read all of this but what we
> did see made us laugh
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> y'all have a good day, too.
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>  sent from our ms-dos 3.14
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>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 3:55 PM, david <ainut at knology.net> wrote:
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>>>  If y'all don't mind ---
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>>> Before you go, Jordan, please define some of your phrases, like:
>>> "script kiddie classes" - Is that a reference to shell scripts, Arduino
>>> "sketch" scripts, or what?
>>> "expensive toys" - is there a certain dollar point where this term
>>> applies?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> David Merchant
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>>> On 04/22/15 17:47, Ryen Katherine wrote:
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>>> Jordan,
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>>>  If you find the tech to be not up to your security standards, then by
>>> all means, don't use it. But insulting those that have no problem using it
>>> is incredibly rude, and I must ask that you desist.
>>>
>>>  Ryen Katherine
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>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Jordan Beazley <gothsburnedrome at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>   I forgot that I'm dealing with chuckleheads from Secret Access Is
>>> Cached here
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>>> http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/02/04/1320223/hackers-clone-passports-in-driveby-rfid-heist
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>>> it's not about the secrecy of the data stored. your position can be
>>> tracked with rfid so why you would voluntarily use that is beyond me
>>>
>>> and someone can tell more than when you walk past the scanners in wally
>>> world if they're looking for you
>>>
>>> those of you who actually do shit that you worry about rather than play
>>> with expensive toys to satiate the script kiddie class will know
>>>
>>>  the rest of you nerds have fun now
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>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stephan Henning <shenning at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Pretty sure it's a bit more complicated than that.
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>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Hunter Fuller <hfuller at pixilic.com>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> Range is more of a function of the reader in that way. A determined
>>>>> reader has the potential to read tags for quite some distance.
>>>>>  On Apr 22, 2015 11:23 AM, "david" <ainut at knology.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Well, if these have such a limited range of only a few centimeters,
>>>>>> you have to want it to be read, seems like.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On 04/22/15 07:47, Jordan Beazley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  why are we wanting to bring government spying into a hackerspace
>>>>>> again with son of rfid? weren't we all cutting rfids out of our gap clothes
>>>>>> and library books a few years ago? now we want them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  guys this is why I still use a nokia, which is smarter than a smart
>>>>>> phone IMHO . none of that bilderberg beam stuff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ray back me up on this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Kirk D Mccann <kirk.mccann at gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So have we decided to all go in together or will the shop just
>>>>>>> purchase a bunch for purchase.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Here is where the vending machine for components would be nice.
>>>>>>> Though I think the vending machine would need to be the size of a small
>>>>>>> warehouse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  -Kirk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Hunter Fuller <hfuller at pixilic.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll get in on it.
>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2015 2:46 PM, "Jeff Cotten" <omegix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I am going to place an order for (what I believe) is the smallest
>>>>>>>>> purchasable NFC enabled sticker.  I plan on sticking it on the back of my
>>>>>>>>> wristband as a way to get into the makeshop.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  If anyone would like to be added to this order, they are $1.13
>>>>>>>>> each, shipping and handling and VAT around $7 (it's out of the UK).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://rapidnfc.com/item/313/clear_nfc_tags_ntag213_midas
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