[ML-General] linux networking questions

david ainut at knology.net
Tue Oct 6 13:16:21 CDT 2015


At least now I can 'shutdown' properly and not just yank the power off!




On 10/06/2015 01:07 PM, david wrote:
> Using ssh, it asks for password but neither 'raspberry' nor blank 
> works.  I tried as root and as 'pi' and as 'Pi'.
>
> UPDATE: 'pi' with 'raspberry' works now for ssh!  This is definitely 
> weird.
>
> And, both wifi and wired are working simultaneously.  Whoever made 
> this image was thinking ahead.  Kudos to them.
>
> If I can just figure out why it only works sometimes...  :)
>
> David
>
>
>
> On 10/06/2015 01:00 PM, Hunter Fuller wrote:
>>
>> Do you at least get a password prompt? If not, what error?
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2015 12:58 PM, "david" <ainut at knology.net> wrote:
>>
>>     All my machines are Linux/UNIX/IRIX, except the one (mandatory)
>>     Winblows box, which is a laptop.
>>     3 desktops (one of which apparently won't run Linux more than 48
>>     hours, using AMD 83xx or 93xx processor) and 6 SoC's, not
>>     including Arduino's or tv servers.
>>
>>     Good catch about nmap!  It verified the RPi address.  I still
>>     can't ssh into it, even though it is not supposed to have any
>>     passwords...
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     David Merchant
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 10/06/2015 12:25 PM, Michael Patton wrote:
>>>     https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/troubleshooting/hardware/networking/ip-address.md
>>>
>>>
>>>     do you have another linux device? If so, you can use nmap to
>>>     discover the connections on the network - one of which is
>>>     hopefully your pi.
>>>
>>>     I'm not sure what too you could use for windows, but there has
>>>     to be one: arp -a maybe?
>>>
>>>     I had SEVERE problems with my pi working on a network -- because
>>>     the cat5 cable I had was a POS. Once I swapped it out, all of
>>>     the problems I had with the pi disappeared.
>>>
>>>     don't kick puppies. :)
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:05 AM, david <ainut at knology.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>         I can't get into the RPi 2.  Bah.  Just downloaded a new
>>>         image to an SD card and I cannot ssh.
>>>         Can't login direct because I can't find the stupid small
>>>         HDMI-normal HDMI cable now. Keyboard and mouse are connected
>>>         via USB hub but I can't see the output.  Grrrr.
>>>
>>>         I don't know if this new image uses a static IP for itself
>>>         but I think so.  It *should* be at 192.186.10.1 on wireless
>>>         but can't find out it's address on wired.
>>>
>>>         Think I'll go out and kick some puppies.
>>>
>>>         David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 10/06/2015 08:28 AM, Michael Patton wrote:
>>>>         I'm late to the game but are you still having problems?
>>>>
>>>>         I had issues with my rpi last year and dhcp not working
>>>>         blah blah.
>>>>
>>>>         What does your: sudo cat /etc/network/interfaces say?
>>>>
>>>>         Have you set up the static IP in there?
>>>>
>>>>         Sorry if you answered this already and I'm assuming you
>>>>         have --  I need more coffee.
>>>>
>>>>         On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:10 PM, david <ainut at knology.net>
>>>>         wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             I got the router setup.  It's the PC's (Linux and one
>>>>             Winblows) that I now need to also configure.
>>>>             Strange that .7.2 would work already, but not .10.1.
>>>>
>>>>             David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On 10/05/2015 10:59 PM, James Fluhler wrote:
>>>>>             I can turn on my rpi in the morning and tell your for
>>>>>             certain; and maybe I completely mis understood your
>>>>>             question. I will also be the first to admit my
>>>>>             knowledge of advanced networking is nil. But I always
>>>>>             thought that basically you need everything in IP
>>>>>             addresses to be identical minus the last 3 numbers
>>>>>             after the So AAA.BBB.CCC.###
>>>>>
>>>>>             Now if the issue is that stock the IP address of the
>>>>>             beagle bone or rpi is not taking an address from your
>>>>>             router; I think you can use ifconfig to set the ip and
>>>>>             subnet address.
>>>>>
>>>>>             The only way I could think you could get say your pc
>>>>>             at 192.168.1.xxx to talk to 192.168.2.xxx is to have
>>>>>             some device with two network interfaces connected to
>>>>>             both networks that will also share network data
>>>>>             between the net works. Eg you could connect a router
>>>>>             to a router thus combining networks with different IPs
>>>>>             and different SSIDs.
>>>>>
>>>>>             You could probably use your rpi to do this setting up
>>>>>             say the wireless to serve dhcp and act as an access
>>>>>             point and the wired connected to your of network, or
>>>>>             even two wireless adapters on the rpi.
>>>>>
>>>>>             Idk like is said im not an advanced networking person,
>>>>>             I have messed a little with virtual networks and I
>>>>>             believe it's possible you could connect to say
>>>>>             192.168.2.30 from a computer with the address
>>>>>             192.168.1.xxx via a virtual lan. But I can't say I
>>>>>             know exactly how to do this on Linux or PC well enough
>>>>>             to explain in an email. But I use a virtual lan for
>>>>>             connecting to the configuration IP address of a
>>>>>             wireless back haul I setup between two office
>>>>>             buildings at work. That said the back haul is
>>>>>             connected to the same network I am on its just its
>>>>>             configuration server is on a virtual lan.
>>>>>
>>>>>             Just a few thoughts maybe someone has better suggestions
>>>>>
>>>>>             James F.
>>>>>
>>>>>             On Oct 5, 2015, at 10:37 PM, david <ainut at knology.net>
>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>             Appreciate the help, Hunter.  Is it not easy to have
>>>>>>             everything in the 192.168.x.x address range?  (Mask
>>>>>>             255.255.0.0?)  I can't remember any of this but bits
>>>>>>             and pieces...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             My router and firewall to the outside world are set
>>>>>>             not to pass 192.168.x.x out to the world (as such)
>>>>>>             but I'm using all bridges internally (but there may
>>>>>>             still be one brouter in the mix; not sure.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Thanks,
>>>>>>             David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             On 10/05/2015 10:32 PM, Hunter Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             The long and the short of it is subnet masking.
>>>>>>>             Basically, in home networking, your subnet mask is
>>>>>>>             almost always 255.255.255.0 also known as a /24
>>>>>>>             (slash 24). What this means is that the first three
>>>>>>>             octets of the IPs of two devices have to be the same
>>>>>>>             before they can talk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Routers are capable of breaking this boundary, but
>>>>>>>             of course your router can only know about
>>>>>>>             192.168.1.0/24 <http://192.168.1.0/24> so that won't
>>>>>>>             help you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             If the raspberry pi is handing out addresses in a
>>>>>>>             different range then you need to put your laptop in
>>>>>>>             that range temporarily, log into the pi, and
>>>>>>>             reconfigure it to not do that. Unless you intend for
>>>>>>>             it to create its own separate network that is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             On Oct 5, 2015 10:22 PM, "david" <ainut at knology.net>
>>>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 Seems like lately I've forgotten everything I've
>>>>>>>                 ever known. <sigh>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 I need to be able to access subnets at home;
>>>>>>>                 everything is behind a firewall to the Internet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 My PC's are all dhcp in the 192.168.1.x address
>>>>>>>                 space.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 I'd like to be able to talk to other addresses
>>>>>>>                 from these PC's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 Specifically:
>>>>>>>                 192.168.7.2 -- Beaglebone Black default IP
>>>>>>>                 Address works just fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 but
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 192.168.10.1 -- particular RPi 2 address from
>>>>>>>                 downloaded image does not.  Of course, that Pi
>>>>>>>                 is a wireless one, while if I turn off the
>>>>>>>                 wireless and connect a house cable, it gets
>>>>>>>                 assigned 192.168.1.56 (for example) and that
>>>>>>>                 works fine.  BUT, the wifi address is still not
>>>>>>>                 accessible unless I make the wifi laptop get on
>>>>>>>                 the RPi 2 as it's dhcp server and then the
>>>>>>>                 laptop gets assigned 192.168.10.x. <sigh> (Same
>>>>>>>                 for the Android tablet.) How do I get everything
>>>>>>>                 to play nice with each other?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 Bought a NAS server and set it's address to
>>>>>>>                 192.168.200.1 -- and *nothing* in the house
>>>>>>>                 could see it until I changed it's address to a
>>>>>>>                 192.168.1.x.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 Help, please.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 Thanks,
>>>>>>>                 David Merchant
>>>>>>>
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