[ML-General] elections - thought experiment`

[Phillip Showers]

How does expressing a hope that 'real hackers' would invalidate our
national elections by cracking the election systems in place, to 'make
sure' someone else doesn't do it in any way help the situation, within your
thought experiment? The act of cracking a machine invalidates its output,
whether the cracker is wearing a white or a black hat.

The only real way to secure the election would be for those states with
electronic ballot machines to go back to paper ballots, so that there is a
physical proof of a vote. The best outcome, if people were really worried
about blackhat cracking, would be to remove computers from the system.
Additionally, though some voting machines have been shown to have hardware
vulnerabilities, these are mitigated by vote staff watching to make sure
that no one plugs anything into the back of the machines. At the end of the
day it returns to trust. You either trust that your vote will count or you
don't. If you don't, then don't bother voting. Problem solved. QED
Cheers!
Phil



On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:32 AM David <ainut at knology.net> wrote:

> In case you didn't notice, it IS about hacking.
>
>
>
> On 09/20/2016 09:46 AM, Travis Crumpton wrote:
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> The ML-General list is for public discussion about making, hacking, and
> creating, not shop politics, please use the proper list for this type of
> discussion
>
> Thank you,
>      Travis
>
> On Sep 20, 2016 8:03 AM, "Kirk D Mccann" <kirk.mccann at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a little kid trying to get payback when things doesn't go
>> their way.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 6:17 AM, wesleyswift2 <wesleyswift2 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah.   One of the candidates is already claiming voter fraud.   Wants
>>> all the yahoos to rise up if he doesn't win.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: David <ainut at knology.net>
>>> Date: 9/20/16 12:35 AM (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: Public discussion about Makers Local and related activities <
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>>> Subject: [ML-General] elections - thought experiment`
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be fantastic if the real computer hackers made sure the
>>> upcoming prez election was valid and not faked???
>>>
>>>
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