[ML-General] elections - thought experiment`

[David]

Here's hoping there is not repeat of the dozens and dozens of reports of 
voter fraud that accompanied the obamanation "elections."

There's got to be some way to hold these people's feet to the fire.


On 09/20/2016 03:01 PM, Phillip Showers wrote:
> How does expressing a hope that 'real hackers' would invalidate our 
> national elections by cracking the election systems in place, to 'make 
> sure' someone else doesn't do it in any way help the situation, within 
> your thought experiment? The act of cracking a machine invalidates its 
> output, whether the cracker is wearing a white or a black hat.
>
> The only real way to secure the election would be for those states 
> with electronic ballot machines to go back to paper ballots, so that 
> there is a physical proof of a vote. The best outcome, if people were 
> really worried about blackhat cracking, would be to remove computers 
> from the system. Additionally, though some voting machines have been 
> shown to have hardware vulnerabilities, these are mitigated by vote 
> staff watching to make sure that no one plugs anything into the back 
> of the machines. At the end of the day it returns to trust. You either 
> trust that your vote will count or you don't. If you don't, then don't 
> bother voting. Problem solved. QED
> Cheers!
> Phil
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:32 AM David <ainut at knology.net 
> <mailto:ainut at knology.net>> wrote:
>
>     In case you didn't notice, it IS about hacking.
>
>
>
>     On 09/20/2016 09:46 AM, Travis Crumpton wrote:
>>
>>     The ML-General list is for public discussion about making,
>>     hacking, and creating, not shop politics, please use the proper
>>     list for this type of discussion
>>
>>     Thank you,
>>          Travis
>>
>>
>>     On Sep 20, 2016 8:03 AM, "Kirk D Mccann" <kirk.mccann at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:kirk.mccann at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Sounds like a little kid trying to get payback when things
>>         doesn't go their way.
>>
>>         On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 6:17 AM, wesleyswift2
>>         <wesleyswift2 at gmail.com <mailto:wesleyswift2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Yeah.   One of the candidates is already claiming voter
>>             fraud.   Wants all the yahoos to rise up if he doesn't win.
>>
>>
>>
>>             Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>
>>
>>             -------- Original message --------
>>             From: David <ainut at knology.net <mailto:ainut at knology.net>>
>>             Date: 9/20/16 12:35 AM (GMT-06:00)
>>             To: Public discussion about Makers Local and related
>>             activities <general at lists.makerslocal.org
>>             <mailto:general at lists.makerslocal.org>>
>>             Subject: [ML-General] elections - thought experiment`
>>
>>             Wouldn't it be fantastic if the real computer hackers
>>             made sure the
>>             upcoming prez election was valid and not faked???
>>
>>
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